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Hey there.
In the 6 minute video, I see a sample rate selector. Does that mean Band in Box now will play back and lock to 48k alright?
And how is it doing the actual 32 bit and 24 bit playback?
I use the Audiophile version. Thanks!
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Does that mean Band in Box now will play back and lock to 48k alright?
This has not changed in 2021. Band-in-a-Box always outputs in 44.1kHz, and CoreAudio automatically resamples if your interface is set to a different sample rate.
And how is it doing the actual 32 bit and 24 bit playback?
Everything is processed, mixed, and output at 32 bit. If your interface only supports 16 bit, for example, CoreAudio will automatically convert down to 16 bit.
Blake
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Thank you Blake. And nice avatar.
So how does the new bit feature affect us in the Audiophile version?
And does audiophole still ship on 3.0 USB drives? Or is it now faster 3.1, or 3.2???
Last edited by pglabcomp; 06/08/21 03:19 AM.
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Thank you Blake. And nice avatar.
So how does the new bit feature affect us in the Audiophile version?
And does audiophole still ship on 3.0 USB drives? Or is it now faster 3.1, or 3.2???
Processing and mixing at 32-bits increases accuracy and headroom in the mix, even if the output is eventually reduced to 16-bits. This is true for the Audiophile edition, as well as all the others too, but you'll hear more of the advantage from the Audiophile. We ship the Audiophile on a 2tb USB 3.0 hard drive. No need to make it a 3.1 or 3.2, because hard drives are not fast enough to need a faster connection than that - currently the fastest hard drive in the world transfers at 524mb/sec while the USB3.0 spec is 625mb/sec).
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So how does the new bit feature affect us in the Audiophile version?
Since the Audiophile version has higher fidelity audio data, there is more information that would be lost without 32 bit processing. Since you have more to lose, there is more to gain when playing a song or rendering to a file.
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Thank you Simon and Blake 
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You're very welcome pglabcomp, that's what we're here for!
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We ship the Audiophile on a 2tb USB 3.0 hard drive. No need to make it a 3.1 or 3.2, because hard drives are not fast enough to need a faster connection than that - currently the fastest hard drive in the world transfers at 524mb/sec while the USB3.0 spec is 625mb/sec). Although the Audiophile version does not ship on the fastest HHD in the world (in fact, it's pretty slow compared to many others around 230mb/sec), it doesn't really matter. SATA III SSDs are a touch slower than USB 3, too. The fastest ones have real world R/W around 560mb/sec. I've done a lot of testing to see if there was a difference between running BIAB Audiophile on a SATA III SSD and the supplied HDD. Yes, there is but the differences are measured in seconds. Running it entirely on the internal SSD pair on my iMac Pro (over 4Kmb/sec) is faster still but again, the difference is measured in seconds. Audio does not need blazing speed. AV/video, OTOH… well that's a whole 'nother story.
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Audio does not need blazing speed. Absolutely. Recording or playing 128 tracks at a time at 192khz 32-bit audio is around 98mb/sec, well under the 560mb/sec for a basic SATA SSD. Random access time does matter a bit though, which is where SSD's shine over hard drives. For BIAB though, with only a handful of tracks playing back at a time, you're not gonna notice the difference - this theoretically tops out at ~4.5mb/sec for all 7 tracks in use plus all 16 Utility tracks. AV/video, OTOH… well that's a whole 'nother story. We're talkin' multiple gigs per second at that point!
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