When can we expect information on Windows 11 compatibility for biab/rb versions
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It's a good question, but I guess we have to wait until at least Microsoft release some beta builds.
Microsoft says that Windows 11 will be released by the holidays at the end of this year, but there will be beta access for Windows Insiders to various builds ahead of the final release starting next week.
I'm not sure if PG Music are involved in Beta testing of Windows. Besides, they'll be busy working through the BiaB issue fixes
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I get the notices for beta testing Windows, but I have not actively participated in a long time. I'm not in a rush now, either, since things seem to be stable. And a bigger worry than BIAB is that my 5-year old i7 CPU is not compatible.
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Well, they claimed windows 11 will be faster because it makes use of ressources in a more efficient way. So, even it would be more demanding because of added functions, this should be compensated by the efficiency. Just my guess (running a 5 year old i5).
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It needs a security chip. I saw a tentative list of approved CPUs and mine did not make the list. The i7s started in the 8000 range and mine is 4700. I won’t publish the list because it’s tentative and things may change.
I’m sure there will be a test program available. It may be that mine will be able to upgrade but will be in the ‘not recommended’ class.
I ran the test. My main system apparently doesn't comply because of the "trusted platform module". For everything else, it far exceeds every requirement (24Gb RAM etc).
Will I be the first to upgrade my computer (and all the issues with purchasing and installing layered products, development environments, purchasing other software upgrades that are required for Windows 11)? Absolutely not.
Microsoft's PC Health Check Program even recommended 5 local retailers in my area where I can Shop for a Windows 11 compatible PC.
They're clearly all in bed together and looking forward to a feeding frenzy. They should be disgusted. I for one won't be intimidated by such push marketing.
If that's their approach, then Windows 11 can wait a very long, long, long time.
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Thanks Mike! Yes, that’s the ‘security chip’ check I mentioned earlier. Thanks for the link to test just that. As Trevor said, this one requirement is going to disqualify a lot of otherwise fine hardware.
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Hi guys It ran the check and it said it cannot find it tpm here we go again!!!
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Yes. And possibly that has been secretly seeded on computers in the background with all of the Windows 10 updates that have been surreptitiously applied in the past few months. If that's the case, then shame on you Microsoft, shame. It will be a long time before Windows 11 sees the light of day here.
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. . . that’s the ‘security chip’ check I mentioned earlier. Thanks for the link to test just that. As Trevor said, this one requirement is going to disqualify a lot of otherwise fine hardware.
TPM may need to be activated via the system BIOS. My 2018 system had it disabled via default. Only after activation my system passed the Windows 11 compatibility test.
My BIOS turned out to be 7 years old, not the 5 I thought since I assembled the computer parts five years ago. This TPM stuff has a few alternatives possible in the BIOS, but not for a motherboard as old as mine - the setting was nowhere to be found. I think Microsoft is going to be surprised how many machines fail their qualifications for Windows 11.
The Windows 11 Check app simply said my machine failed. No help at all to figure out why. If I hadn't read many articles already, I would have been quite put off. Actually, I'm still put off.
And since Microsoft does not sell much hardware anymore, I'm wondering what is in it for them to force all this purchase of new equipment. License royalties? The ease of not having to support old machines?
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It is at the level of the BIOS of your PC that it is necessary to check the thing: it is a little different according to the manufacturers, but one often arrives there via the "CPU Configuration" at AMD or the "PCH-FW Configuration" at Intel.
Once the option is located, all you have to do is activate it, save the changes and restart the machine.
Great tip! Interesting that my Lenovo desktop from 2012 has one, though from further googling it only has a TPM version 1.2 not TPM 2.0, so like others I may need a newer machine even though this otherwise meets the specs. I also don't think this machine supports UEFI, so that'll exclude it for me as well.
I'll have to check my desktop at home, it's got a 4930K in it, and iirc the LGA2011 platform had more of this TPM and UEFI stuff than the LGA1155 platform.
As for when BIAB will support Windows 11, we have to actually get Windows 11 to test with. I don't know whether we have beta access or not for Windows, but as a tech support person I'm probably last in line to get it here.
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When can we expect information on Windows 11 compatibility for biab/rb versions
Windows is usually pretty good for backward compatibility and with it's Compatibility Mode you can run 95, XP.... apps. Mac on the other hand is endlessly breaking apps with every release or update, though it is a great OS that I would rather use this is it's downfall for me (and developers having to re-code all the time another app for each version/update) it makes it impossible to use the older app you have when updating or upgrading, 32 bit apps have been banned by Apple but Win can run both, hope Win11 is the same. I have been trying to get Biab/Plugin working on Linux and saw this:
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On Linux going back to an older Wine is usually not so much of an issue, but OSX tends to break its API with every release, making old Wine (and thus CrossOver) broken.
Great tip! Interesting that my Lenovo desktop from 2012 has one, though from further googling it only has a TPM version 1.2 not TPM 2.0, so like others I may need a newer machine even though this otherwise meets the specs. I also don't think this machine supports UEFI, so that'll exclude it for me as well.
I agree, great tip.....
I had to activate it in BIOS on my laptop and my desktop already had it activated.
Great tip! Interesting that my Lenovo desktop from 2012 has one, though from further googling it only has a TPM version 1.2 not TPM 2.0, so like others I may need a newer machine even though this otherwise meets the specs. I also don't think this machine supports UEFI, so that'll exclude it for me as well.
Simon, from what I've seen on my Dell machine, some BIOS and firmware updates are kind of integrated. You may be able to go to Lenovo and find more updated drivers that can get you closer to TPM 2.0.
That tip about finding the setting in the BIOS only applies to motherboards manufactured around 2016 or after, since they follow Microsoft's guidance at that time (and which escaped notice at the time of its coming importance).
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