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I have several expensive devices that will not run on win 10...no drivers.
Any reason I can not use win 7?
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Last edited by Planobilly; 07/03/21 12:36 PM.
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Nope. Was Windows 7 the OS of the time?
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I've ran W7 in a pinch as recently as about 2 weeks ago, but it is no longer supported for updates/security so it's a personal choice depending on what you risk by doing so ..
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if the computer is not on the internet, what are the risk?
I assume you can still download the last update that was available for win 7.
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Last edited by Planobilly; 07/03/21 04:34 PM.
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I have WinXP running on one stage computer and Win7 on another. Since they never go on the Internet, since the only files I transfer to them are either MP3 or RTF files, and since the software I use them fore still works fine, there is no need to get any updates.
Actually, I'm surprised my 2002 ThinkPad is still humming away. I dropped the other 2002 ThinkPad, broke a hinge, and although it still works, I retired it and replaced it with a Win7 ThinkPad.
On stage, they play backing tracks and display either words or music notation. I bring two and have both up and running for that the-show-must-go-on moments. I gig for a living, so failure is not an option. Since 2002 I've had to switch the USB→Audio cable to the second computer twice. Not a bad record for ThinkPad computers.
At home, I have an old XP just to run Master Tracks Pro. It works better on XP than it does on Win10. I like it for MIDI sequencing because it is very, very fast and without DAW audio features, everything I need is no more than two clicks away.
There is nothing wrong with old computers as long as you don't put them on any network (including Internet) and are careful the files you feed them are virus free.
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I may be the oldest old phart here but I'm absolutely down with the latest tech since so much of what I do musically and otherwise is net based - unlike some of you folks. I'm a Mac guy but I did fire up my 12 year old Win 7 Dell the other day (first time in years) to search for some photos. All worked fine but, man, were the photo editing programs ever clunky Bud
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if the computer is not on the internet, what are the risk?
I assume you can still download the last update that was available for win 7.
Those 2 things contradict each other. If it's not on the interne, how would you download updates? I once heard a tech support agent tell someone who needed drivers for their NIC to download them. Okay, think about that for a sec....
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
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There is nothing wrong with old computers as long as you don't put them on any network (including Internet) and are careful the files you feed them are virus free.
Just to be technical, and you know I always am, you could put them on your LAN at home but never on a WAN where they are exposed. Just to avoid using "sneakernet" when you have to move files to put them in your show. Have a separate router for just those 2 independent of the one you use to get online. In old days you could turn NETBios on and TCP/IP off for file sharing, and I did that for a long time. It did take some tweaking I don't remember how to do, but it worked to keep computers from being exposed. Same deal though, ONE had to have TCP/IP enabled to get out into the world. Man, that's really dating myself. I don't know when they renamed NETBios from NBF to NBT but that was well after I stopped doing that anyway.
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
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I once heard a tech support agent tell someone who needed drivers for their NIC to download them. Okay, think about that for a sec....
.. I sent you an email on how to fix your email issue ..
Make your sound your own!
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Howdy Plano....
Personally, I don't see a problem.
My DAW (Sonar X3) is still Win7 because I have a dated audio interface being the Delta 44.
I have couple of other older apps that may not work in Win10.
Yes....I also use it on the web because I purchased a hearty anti-virus program package with a VPN.
Hence....I don't worry about it either way.
I still have Win7 on my laptop but with the same anti-virus program and VPN.
Hope that helps.
Have a great day....
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I once heard a tech support agent tell someone who needed drivers for their NIC to download them. Okay, think about that for a sec....
.. I sent you an email on how to fix your email issue .. Me??? Email issue?
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Easy to have a dual boot system windows 10 and 7 on same computer different partitions of course, I have it for years, runs fine, though don't use windows 7 much now. You can set to have a default boot OS either 10 or 7. An invaluable tool I use in case of MBR corruption or point towards a partition with an OS is EasyBCD https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/There is a free version there, no need to buy.
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There is nothing wrong with old computers as long as you don't put them on any network (including Internet) and are careful the files you feed them are virus free.
Just to be technical, and you know I always am, you could put them on your LAN at home but never on a WAN where they are exposed. Just to avoid using "sneakernet" when you have to move files to put them in your show. Have a separate router for just those 2 independent of the one you use to get online. In old days you could turn NETBios on and TCP/IP off for file sharing, and I did that for a long time. It did take some tweaking I don't remember how to do, but it worked to keep computers from being exposed. Same deal though, ONE had to have TCP/IP enabled to get out into the world. Man, that's really dating myself. I don't know when they renamed NETBios from NBF to NBT but that was well after I stopped doing that anyway. There's an easier way - set your IP address manually and do not specify a gateway or DNS server IP address. This allows the computer to use TCP/IP for local network communication, and not access the internet.
I once heard a tech support agent tell someone who needed drivers for their NIC to download them. Okay, think about that for a sec....
.. I sent you an email on how to fix your email issue .. *giggle*
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Thanks for "getting it" Simon, I thought everyone missed the intended comedy
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Thanks for "getting it" Simon, I thought everyone missed the intended comedy I've worked in the tech biz long enough to remember when those jokes were fresh and new!
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