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Just released and a nice tutorial for newcomers to BIAB.
Synopsis:
Studio wiz Eli Krantzberg presents a comprehensive set of Band-in-the-Box video tutorials! If you're looking for a one-stop shop to turn your raw song ideas into complete, fleshed out arrangements, this is the video series for you. Eli takes you through the software's extensive feature set, concentrating on the key elements geared toward songwriters, and demonstrates how to build a finished song from even the humblest beginnings. These videos are for new Band-in-a-Box users.
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Creating a Melody (07:25) - In this first video, use the Band-in-a-Box Melodist function to create a melodic idea for a chord progression and arrangement in a DAW.
Exploring the Melodist Maker (10:26) - Learn to use the Melodist Maker to create a custom Melodist and hear how it interacts with different styles. Three separate melodies are generated and brought into the DAW, where they're edited together to create a single, unified melody that matches the chords and arrangement.
Using the Chord Wizard (07:31) - Next, discover the Band-in-a-Box Audio Chord Wizard and hear how it's used to generate chords and tracks supporting a melodic vocal idea for a song chorus.
Creating Harmonies (07:15) - Explore Band-in-a-Box's ability to generate doubling and harmony parts from existing audio. Hear examples on vocals and guitar!
Creating a Guitar Part (07:27) - Learn how the Band-in-a-Box MultiRiff feature is used to create multiple variations of a guitar part - based on your chord progression and rhythms - with custom shots and pushes.
Creating Better Harmonies (07:40) - In this video, discover Band-in-a-Box's advanced harmonizing options, including the ability to export MIDI conversions alongside the generated audio.
Creating a Piano Part (08:19) - Learn how to have Band-in-a-Box create a fully fleshed out piano part based on your original simple chords, in your choice of musical styles, using RealTracks.
Creating an Arrangement (10:36) - See how the Auto Generate Chord Substitutions and Auto Generate Chord Reharmonization functions can be used to reinvigorate a simple melody, with examples in various styles.
Creating a Solo (11:24) - Next, explore the Band-in-a-Box Soloist Maker and its ability to custom design solos and fill lines.
Creating an Intro (08:50) - Hear the Band-in-a-Box's intro generating feature in action as it's used to create inspiring intros to match specific styles and chord progressions.
Creating a Chorus (06:31) - In this video, see the Band-in-a-Box automatic generation feature in action, creating a chorus that harmonically and stylistically matches the preceding verses.
Generating Random Ideas (05:47) - Finally, learn how Band-in-a-Box is used to generate random ideas based on your user input. Individual parts from multiple ideas can be used either independently or in combination as the basis for songwriting inspiration!
I like Eli's style and he certainly shows every aspect of each process. I had a gentle moan to Groove3 a few months ago that they were not updating the videos about BIAB and they certainly seem to have taken it onboard!
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Sounds great, is there a link?
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https://www.groove3.com/tutorials/Songwriting-with-Band-in-a-BoxI have not yet watched any of the video I've been a Groove3 annual subscriber for about 3 years now. $100/year +-. Pretty good value for me. A world of musical subjects available for one price. Lots of stuff on my DAW of preference (Logic Pro). A fair amount of other stuff related to my instrument (guitar). Eli Krantzberg is a good instructor. He does a bunch of Logic Videos. He also has a keyboard based Jazz Harmony video that is exceptional for understanding the subject. All of them available through Groove3.
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I watched a couple of the videos from the series this morning.
Video 1 Creating a Melody and Video 10 Creating an intro.
My initial reactions
Eli moves quickly through the material. Pay attention.
He teaches with both BIAB and his DAW (Logic). If you use Logic you will likely pick up some extra info from this.
The project is what you would expect from Eli Krantzberg. Professionally done and comprehensive. Good work
Admittedly I watched about 10% of the material.
Someone else may do a more exhaustive review. Truth is, these features are not part of BIAB that I use (at least not yet). I may use the Intro feature in the future.
Likely I'll watch all of them and see what Logic tricks I come up with.
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There are a couple of reasons I prefer to purchase and download videos from Groove3 versus using Groove3's subscription service. Having said that, it's great that Groove3 offers both options.
Reason 1 is I prefer to purchase versus rent videos. I've purchased four video tutorial series from Groove3.
Reason 2 is I can view my videos on offline smart devices. I have a smart phone and an e-reader that are video capable but do not have online capability. The videos are loaded on each device and I watch the videos whenever I want to.
I realize everyone's experience is different so it's nice that Groove3 offers both payment options.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
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I went through the Song Writing tutorial by Eli and reckon I’ve learnt more about BIAB than in many other tutorials I’ve watched. Going through this also got me to go back to the PG Videos and try stuff I did not know was available really. Methods to achieve additional bits in songs that are needed.
I recommend this video series. There are many ways to access Groove 3 including purchasing a video as Jim says. There is also a $15 for a months access to all the site and a yearly access. From my perspective a $15 look for a month then make up your mind on what you need is a good way to go.
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FYI: I've purchased the Band-in-a-Box Explained video tutorial in the past and purchased the Songwriting with Band-in-a-Box a few days ago.
For those that like to watch their money, Groove3 is having a sale until the end of the month.
The Songwriting tutorial has exposed me to numerous tools I've not explored. I believe learning to use some of the tools and adding them to my workflow will add some variety and complexity to my music.
The Songwriting tutorial is based on the Mac program so Windows users will need to determine how to access the tools in the Windows version of Band-in-a-Box. Also, support files are available but, for the most part, they are of no use to Windows users so I deleted the support files.
Once again PatrickS, thank you for alerting us to the new Groove3 BiaB video tutorial.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
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I want to thank everyone on this thread -- and PatrickS, in particular -- for bringing Groove3 to my attention.
All I can say is: Wow. I learned so much from the Getting Started series, and now I'm about to begin the Songwriting course.
I had never heard of Groove3 before, but thank goodness I found it. What a tremendous resource!
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I can second that. Never heard of Groove 3 before, I will certainly be making the most of their video series.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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