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#670499 - 08/28/21 08:31 PM [Off-Topic] Re: If I turn somebody else's song upside down, who wrote it? [Re: Mark Hayes]
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OK, now I'm looking into using UserTracks to automate this process, at least for chord progressions:

1) BIAB: Export UserTrack template yadayadayada.sgu to MIDI
2) Logic: Import MIDI, invert, render to audio
3) BIAB: Use inverted audio file for UserTrack audio file yadayadayada.wav

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TEST RESULTS SO FAR:

Tracky McTrackface, a UserTrack template played with a cheesy MIDI style

https://soundcloud.com/mark_hayes/trackymctrackface

Tracky McTrackface transformed, using inversion UserTrack

https://soundcloud.com/mark_hayes/trackymctrackface-inverted

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#670555 - 08/29/21 09:00 AM [Off-Topic] Re: If I turn somebody else's song upside down, who wrote it? [Re: Mark Hayes]
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2) Logic: Import MIDI, invert, render to audio

Does Logic have a better synth to use for the render to audio portion?
Do you have hardware synths available?
The Invert part could be fun, but the generated sounds could be better IMHO
Once you import MIDI and Invert it, can you save it off to use in another program as a basic MIDI file (.mid)?
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#670559 - 08/29/21 09:42 AM [Off-Topic] Re: If I turn somebody else's song upside down, who wrote it? [Re: rharv]
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Originally Posted By: rharv

Does Logic have a better synth to use for the render to audio portion?
Do you have hardware synths available?
The Invert part could be fun, but the generated sounds could be better IMHO
Once you import MIDI and Invert it, can you save it off to use in another program as a basic MIDI file (.mid)?


Oh, God, I certainly hope I could make something sound better than this! Sorry, I should have been more explicit that I wasn't going for musical goodness yet, this grunge is barely tolerable for human consumption. I have heard this inversion thing work with the right material, but this is clearly not that.

Here, I was mainly concerned with getting every note on every track within the playable range of some instrument, since the inversion process swings notes around. I just wanted to be able to hear if I was doing what I'm trying to do, in terms of how UserTracks work.

Sorry the sample was so long. =8^)


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#671826 - 09/06/21 03:25 PM [Off-Topic] Re: If I turn somebody else's song upside down, who wrote it? [Re: Mark Hayes]
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If anyone's still here, this is the result of inverting "You Won't See Me" then feeding it into BIAB for chordal analysis and jazzification:

https://soundcloud.com/mark_hayes/uwontcme-biab

Just a BIAB fingerpicked guitar with EastWest voices.

(RealTrack: ~522:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 120)

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