We thought we were knowledgeable about the public domain blues catalog until we discovered this song by Bessie Brown written nearly 100 years ago (originally as Louisiana Hoodoo Blues). Although she was a Bessie Smith contemporary we had not heard of her. A heckuva lyric in our opinion for the time (or any time) and we are thrilled to have found it. Thank you Ms Brown! And Peter and PG Music. Listens and comments are appreciated. Lyrics on SC.
Glossary
Hoodoo - not voodoo but a well defined spiritual belief system that was brought over during slavery times and survives to this day in parts of the South - in Louisiana in particular.
Dumplings - a notable southern US dough based dish but popular in many forms around the world.
Graveyard Dust or Goofer Dust - used to cast a harmful spell
Black Cat Bone - used for romantic success
Gris Gris - a packet of material to bring the wearer good luck
Conjure (noun) - a potent form of magic
Janice: vocal, melody & arrangement Bud: very minor lyric tweaks, arrangement, progression, mix and Janice photo Peter: guitar solos, fills, rhythm and arrangement
Bass: RealTrack 2435 NewOrleansShuffle Sw 130 Rendered DI > Logic Pro X bass amp/cabinet/mic > Waves Bass Rider
Piano: MidiSuperTrack 1800 Rhythm Texas Blues Rock Shuffle Sw 130 Logic Grand Steinway > Waves CLA Unplugged
Drums: RealDrums Blues Rock Shuffle > Waves CLA Drums Snare double from from RD file sample > Waves CLA Drums Kick double from RD file sample > Waves CLA Drums Cymbal from RD file sample > Waves JJP Cymbals
This is a big week on the forum: FJ drops a piece of wonderful love positivity and now J&B with Peter deliver a slab of the darker side of that same equation. A track that deserves the glossary of terms. Words that are common enough in usage but uttered in relative ignorance.
From the fire starter lead in the intro to the sputtering lick that sees the song out Peter plays to illuminate the song. The rhythm section reminds me of Screamin' Lord Sutch's band...British heart pumping blues with a solid THWACK n Thud. The narrative is a cool slice of obsession that's too god for Halloween festivities. Janice's delivery - from the dragged syllables to the scat - is a perfect resurrection machine for this story of DIY possession & defence.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
Everyone, great job by all of you! That song was ahead of it's time! All parts sound excellent! Super polished and ready for the masses! Thanks, Torrey
This is a big week on the forum: FJ drops a piece of wonderful love positivity and now J&B with Peter deliver a slab of the darker side of that same equation. A track that deserves the glossary of terms. Words that are common enough in usage but uttered in relative ignorance.
From the fire starter lead in the intro to the sputtering lick that sees the song out Peter plays to illuminate the song. The rhythm section reminds me of Screamin' Lord Sutch's band...British heart pumping blues with a solid THWACK n Thud. The narrative is a cool slice of obsession that's too god for Halloween festivities. Janice's delivery - from the dragged syllables to the scat - is a perfect resurrection machine for this story of DIY possession & defence.
We always appreciate your production counsel and comments here.
We felt like we found a gem and are very pleased that you feel we did it justice.
Your descriptions above alone are worth the effort!
"Dragged syllables to the scat" Yep, Janice had fun with this one and the vocals went very quickly.
You have done a good job bringing this old tune up-to-date.
Everything sounds good to me except maybe the lead guitar solo - IMHO it is too far back in the mix - It is a very tasty guitar solo and deserves to be featured more.
The lead breaks in the Blues are normally the same volume, centre and front to back position as the lead vocals.
Would Love to hear a remix.
Best Regards Nigel
Nigel Spiers Christchurch, New Zealand info@nzacoustics.com
You have done a good job bringing this old tune up-to-date.
Everything sounds good to me except maybe the lead guitar solo - IMHO it is too far back in the mix - It is a very tasty guitar solo and deserves to be featured more.
The lead breaks in the Blues are normally the same volume, centre and front to back position as the lead vocals.
Would Love to hear a remix.
Best Regards Nigel
Nigel, Thanks for the suggestions. I'm good with the solo volume (I have heard quite a few blues guitar solos ) it builds and gets louder as it goes (and sounds quite loud to me especially through headphones) - adds some dynamics.
Ah, you know I'm a big fan of all you guys do --including your music. hehe. Anyway, this, as to be expected, is absolutely outstanding in every way. Janice, you could sing the bark off a tree; Peter, you were born with taste in your fingers, and, Bud, you add a whole new dimension to the concept of super glue. Great find on this treasure hunt, and, like musical alchemists, you guys turn it into gold. [And here I thought hoodoos were stalagmite-types in Bryce Canyon.]
Quite a leap from the original, this modern rock version is very far from the slow blues, but it really kicks and rocks. The production is excellent and Peter's guitar sounds amazing, really enjoyed the effects and playing. Janice's vocals are better than ever, great variations and the scatting part completes the perfect blues rock package full of gris gris, I'm sure Bessie is dancing to the tune right now.
WOWSER ! the lady can sing ! loved the vocal style on this. one word SUPERB. I MEAN THIS SINCERELY ! loved that geetar at 1m25secs. loved those notes at 1m47secs etc etc. YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO ARRANGE A SONG ! on the scat at 2m31secs how bout doubling the scat vocs ? could be fun ?
i dont get excited bout much these days (jaded perhaps ?lol.) but such a pleasure to listen to this. its a great pity this type of song never appears on the hit parade these days. TASTY ! you guys should call yourselves "TOTAL TALENT" best om
First thought that came into my mind while I was listening to 'Hoodoo Woman' was, "Damn, but I wish I could have heard this performed live!" The production had a certain 'good-times-at-the-club' kind of energy, and the subject matter, as humorously sinister as it was, was just kind of thing an audience would expect to hear with the kind of music you all performed.
The other thing I really wanna bring out into the open, here, is 'PeterF'(s) electric guitar solo. Damn, man! Countdown...blast-off...reaching escape velocity, now...leaving the solar system...watch out for that black hole! Wailin'. If an electric guitar was a species of canine, this is the way it would howl. You took my breath away with this solo, sir. Really. I am, like, blo-w-w-wn away, dude.
Carve another notch on the bar stool leg, folks !!!
"Music is what feelings sound like."-- borrowed from a Cakewalk Music Creator forum member, "Mamabear".
Everyone, great job by all of you! That song was ahead of it's time! All parts sound excellent! Super polished and ready for the masses! Thanks, Torrey
Hi guys and girls love the energy and the vocal was awesome then again Janice always does a great job loved all of it and Peter super job on the guitar work!!!!! and Bud great work on the mix and arrangement you guys are a great team of talent thanks eric
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Great opening. Immediately think "this is a good mix!" and a comprehensive band sound to introduce the song and the players. SOLID.
There is NO question - That girl should be a STAR. (She IS a STAR in my book). A "truly gifted singer" doesn't even begin to describe it... Simply - As Good As They Come.
Peter's guitar work just keep getting better and better. This is polished to a very high gloss. A stunning solo!!
Bass and Drums are PERFECT. Piano is tucked in nicely.
Fabulous performance, really bringing this song up to date with a vengeance.
Obviously, Janice is flying on this one, but then so is Peter with what is almost a metal solo. I can hear what Nigel means about the solo being too far back, but I also agree that the volume is about right. I think the answer lies with the reverb, which seems to position the guitar further back. Maybe a shorter reverb would place it better? A minor thing anyway, and the mix is generally great. Loved the song. Cheers, ROG.
Ah, you know I'm a big fan of all you guys do --including your music. hehe. Anyway, this, as to be expected, is absolutely outstanding in every way. Janice, you could sing the bark off a tree; Peter, you were born with taste in your fingers, and, Bud, you add a whole new dimension to the concept of super glue. Great find on this treasure hunt, and, like musical alchemists, you guys turn it into gold. [And here I thought hoodoos were stalagmite-types in Bryce Canyon.]
Thanks Marty. Reading that was as much fun as making the song!
I love the way you are finding and breathing new life into these old songs.
A big swinging vocal from Janice up against Peter's blistering guitar is a match made in rock n blues...
The arrangement, production and overall presentation are top shelf. None better!
Loved it all!
Bob
Thanks for the blistering remarks Bob.
Peter
Originally Posted By: rayc
This is a big week on the forum: FJ drops a piece of wonderful love positivity and now J&B with Peter deliver a slab of the darker side of that same equation. A track that deserves the glossary of terms. Words that are common enough in usage but uttered in relative ignorance.
From the fire starter lead in the intro to the sputtering lick that sees the song out Peter plays to illuminate the song. The rhythm section reminds me of Screamin' Lord Sutch's band...British heart pumping blues with a solid THWACK n Thud. The narrative is a cool slice of obsession that's too god for Halloween festivities. Janice's delivery - from the dragged syllables to the scat - is a perfect resurrection machine for this story of DIY possession & defence.
Thanks for mentioning my part it was an interesting & fun project all round.
Damn, you are so good! Janice - Big A+ From swinging vocals to freestyle impro - Amazing! Peter, fantastic guitars. Solo is a killer. Bud, great work of putting it all together in one fantastic package. Super arrangement, mix and artwork! I believe Bessie would approve. Congrats team! Also, thanks for the glossary! Enjoyed it, and thank you for sharing.
I go for the Black cat bones! I have to of those black creatures, so within some time I have a lot of them (bones). That Bessie is some vengeful woman if you take her man. But she could make very good lyrics on that too! And the three of you made a marvellous song. The vocals are rock solid, but that is a 'normal' fact. And so is the band (but that's a normal fact too). I enjoyed it very much and can't say that enough.
Did Bessie sang herself this kind of song? Did she sang more of these Hoodoo songs? Or did her new husband stayed long enough? By the way, now I'm trying to make me some of that gris-gris! Looks like usable stuff...
Quite a leap from the original, this modern rock version is very far from the slow blues, but it really kicks and rocks. The production is excellent and Peter's guitar sounds amazing, really enjoyed the effects and playing. Janice's vocals are better than ever, great variations and the scatting part completes the perfect blues rock package full of gris gris, I'm sure Bessie is dancing to the tune right now.
Janne
Glad you got to hear the original. It’s fun to rearrange these old songs while trying to maintain the spirit of the original. Thanks for mentioning the scat and, yes, we too hope she would like it. Thanks for all!
WOWSER ! the lady can sing ! loved the vocal style on this. one word SUPERB. I MEAN THIS SINCERELY ! loved that geetar at 1m25secs. loved those notes at 1m47secs etc etc. YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO ARRANGE A SONG ! on the scat at 2m31secs how bout doubling the scat vocs ? could be fun ?
i dont get excited bout much these days (jaded perhaps ?lol.) but such a pleasure to listen to this. its a great pity this type of song never appears on the hit parade these days. TASTY ! you guys should call yourselves "TOTAL TALENT" best om
Thanks for those supportive remarks! They are appreciated. The scat being a scat was just riffing like an instrument. She could never do it the same way again She struggles just to sing verses the same way!
First thought that came into my mind while I was listening to 'Hoodoo Woman' was, "Damn, but I wish I could have heard this performed live!" The production had a certain 'good-times-at-the-club' kind of energy, and the subject matter, as humorously sinister as it was, was just kind of thing an audience would expect to hear with the kind of music you all performed.
The other thing I really wanna bring out into the open, here, is 'PeterF'(s) electric guitar solo. Damn, man! Countdown...blast-off...reaching escape velocity, now...leaving the solar system...watch out for that black hole! Wailin'. If an electric guitar was a species of canine, this is the way it would howl. You took my breath away with this solo, sir. Really. I am, like, blo-w-w-wn away, dude.
Carve another notch on the bar stool leg, folks !!!
We much appreciate you mentioning hearing it live because that is exactly the feel we nearly always try to achieve with our productions! So that means a lot. And, yep, Peter scorched this one. Thank you for your continued support.
WOWSER ! the lady can sing ! loved the vocal style on this. one word SUPERB. I MEAN THIS SINCERELY ! loved that geetar at 1m25secs. loved those notes at 1m47secs etc etc. YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO ARRANGE A SONG ! on the scat at 2m31secs how bout doubling the scat vocs ? could be fun ?
i dont get excited bout much these days (jaded perhaps ?lol.) but such a pleasure to listen to this. its a great pity this type of song never appears on the hit parade these days. TASTY ! you guys should call yourselves "TOTAL TALENT" best om
Thanks for the comments
Peter
Originally Posted By: jannesan
Quite a leap from the original, this modern rock version is very far from the slow blues, but it really kicks and rocks. The production is excellent and Peter's guitar sounds amazing, really enjoyed the effects and playing. Janice's vocals are better than ever, great variations and the scatting part completes the perfect blues rock package full of gris gris, I'm sure Bessie is dancing to the tune right now.
Janne
Thanks Janne
Peter
Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Ah, you know I'm a big fan of all you guys do --including your music. hehe. Anyway, this, as to be expected, is absolutely outstanding in every way. Janice, you could sing the bark off a tree; Peter, you were born with taste in your fingers, and, Bud, you add a whole new dimension to the concept of super glue. Great find on this treasure hunt, and, like musical alchemists, you guys turn it into gold. [And here I thought hoodoos were stalagmite-types in Bryce Canyon.]
Hi guys and girls love the energy and the vocal was awesome then again Janice always does a great job loved all of it and Peter super job on the guitar work!!!!! and Bud great work on the mix and arrangement you guys are a great team of talent thanks eric
Thanks Eric!
We always appreciate you listening and commenting!
I saw the upload notice for this a while back on fb but I wanted to wait until I had enough free time to give it the listen I knew it would deserve.
You guys have a knack of finding these old songs and putting a modern spin on them, man, what a great song!
Great intro, and Peter always does a fabulous job on the guitars.
And Janice! She absolutely nailed the vocal, I don't see how it could possibly be better. And man, that scat is one of the coolest things I've ever heard! Just outstanding
Great song, great arrangement, great performances by all plus a killer mix = perfection!
Great opening. Immediately think "this is a good mix!" and a comprehensive band sound to introduce the song and the players. SOLID.
There is NO question - That girl should be a STAR. (She IS a STAR in my book). A "truly gifted singer" doesn't even begin to describe it... Simply - As Good As They Come.
Peter's guitar work just keep getting better and better. This is polished to a very high gloss. A stunning solo!!
Bass and Drums are PERFECT. Piano is tucked in nicely.
Scattin' brings goosebumps.
DAMN! the mix on this is good!! Pro. No Doubt.
"Hitting on all cylinders" and then some.
fj
What to say regarding your comments?
We hugely appreciate your review. Simply stated it makes it all worthwhile.
Great job, the mix is spot on! Can I ask a few questions...
- In your song description for the drums
Drums: RealDrums Blues Rock Shuffle > Waves CLA Drums Snare double from from RD file sample > Waves CLA Drums Kick double from RD file sample > Waves CLA Drums Cymbal from RD file sample > Waves JJP Cymbals
Do you export the BIAB drums to midi and than use the Waves CLA Drums to be triggered? And then play it along the BIAB file? Does that what you mean by double?
I love the drum sound you have on this.
As well what does Public Domain music mean? Thanks for the time and consideration for my questions, I'm trying to get better at the mixing and mastering aspect of music production...so I ask people who are good at it.
Killer blues number—wonderful production, every single element. Peter’s guitar solos shine; Janice does her usual awesome job on those smoky vocals (nice scatting!). A wonder what you guys do with some of these old tunes. Sounds fresh and new! Great stuff!
Fabulous performance, really bringing this song up to date with a vengeance.
Obviously, Janice is flying on this one, but then so is Peter with what is almost a metal solo. I can hear what Nigel means about the solo being too far back, but I also agree that the volume is about right. I think the answer lies with the reverb, which seems to position the guitar further back. Maybe a shorter reverb would place it better? A minor thing anyway, and the mix is generally great. Loved the song. Cheers, ROG.
Thanks ROG. I’ll defer to Peter’s response to Nigel regarding his guitar tracks. We felt they sat well in the mix. We’ve done 55 songs with Peter and I’ve never added an fx to his guitar
Damn, you are so good! Janice - Big A+ From swinging vocals to freestyle impro - Amazing! Peter, fantastic guitars. Solo is a killer. Bud, great work of putting it all together in one fantastic package. Super arrangement, mix and artwork! I believe Bessie would approve. Congrats team! Also, thanks for the glossary! Enjoyed it, and thank you for sharing.
Misha.
You are very generous Misha. Janice was delighted you liked her scatting. She often scats guitar and sax solos around the house . Your mix comments are greatly appreciated and we too hope Bessie would approve.
I go for the Black cat bones! I have to of those black creatures, so within some time I have a lot of them (bones). That Bessie is some vengeful woman if you take her man. But she could make very good lyrics on that too! And the three of you made a marvellous song. The vocals are rock solid, but that is a 'normal' fact. And so is the band (but that's a normal fact too). I enjoyed it very much and can't say that enough.
Did Bessie sang herself this kind of song? Did she sang more of these Hoodoo songs? Or did her new husband stayed long enough? By the way, now I'm trying to make me some of that gris-gris! Looks like usable stuff...
Kind regards, Hans
Hey, good luck with the gris gris. Let us know if you win the lotto
Bessie did a very slow version with a completely different melody and we could not find any other songs like this from her. The Hoodoo and Voodoo songs were somewhat popular in the 1920's.
This is so good that my "How Fantastic Is This Song?" meter went beserk!!!
From arrangement to performances to final production, this is very satisfying listening.
Janice: Your singing was way beyond brilliant. Your performance was bursting with sparkle and shine. After listening to this, I'm convinced that you own this genre! I loved the way you interwove your vocals with Peter's outstanding guitar playing. In so many ways, this was a duet of superb soloists coming together to create a masterpiece of the very highest calibre. Your scat singing had me grinning from ear to ear. It was sensational. You and Peter reminded me an awful lot of Cleo Laine and John Dankworth. In the below clip, Cleo does quite a lot of scat singing against John's saxophone playing. If you have a listen, I think you'll see why you reminded me of this couple.
Peter: Your guitar playing was absolutely incredible. I don't think I've ever heard you perform better. It seemed to me that you and Janice thrived on one another's musical energy. There was a remarkable synergy between the two of you that created a work where the "whole" was so much more than the "parts."
Bud: I don't know how you managed it, but you captured an incredible live-performance feel. This is truly a fantastic arrangement and mix. I envy your ability to pull this together and create such a fine finished product.
Literally... I'm blown away with the talent on show here.
Lord only knows what kind of spells you was casting with that scat verse. Guys, this is killer. Excellent rhythm section with Peter in the lead. Janice singing every blue note in her repertoire from falsetto high to deep and dark. Excellent leads. All mixed clear as a Louisiana moonlight. (I don't think that's really a thing, but I'm sticking with).
I saw the upload notice for this a while back on fb but I wanted to wait until I had enough free time to give it the listen I knew it would deserve.
You guys have a knack of finding these old songs and putting a modern spin on them, man, what a great song!
Great intro, and Peter always does a fabulous job on the guitars.
And Janice! She absolutely nailed the vocal, I don't see how it could possibly be better. And man, that scat is one of the coolest things I've ever heard! Just outstanding
Great song, great arrangement, great performances by all plus a killer mix = perfection!
Thanks Dave. And Janice was very happy you liked the scat. Hey Bud gets to hear scat guitars and saxophones around the house all the time! We appreciate you.
J&B
Originally Posted By: CaptainMoto
You Do HooDoo !
You guys are knocking them out of the park. Love the fresh take on this oldie.
I like how you find and then take these old songs and make them new while still maintaining the gritty feel of the original.
Nicely done.
Thanks Herb! There are some gems out there.
J&B
Originally Posted By: FireitUP!!!
Great job, the mix is spot on! Can I ask a few questions...
- In your song description for the drums
Drums: RealDrums Blues Rock Shuffle > Waves CLA Drums Snare double from from RD file sample > Waves CLA Drums Kick double from RD file sample > Waves CLA Drums Cymbal from RD file sample > Waves JJP Cymbals
Do you export the BIAB drums to midi and than use the Waves CLA Drums to be triggered? And then play it along the BIAB file? Does that what you mean by double?
I love the drum sound you have on this.
As well what does Public Domain music mean? Thanks for the time and consideration for my questions, I'm trying to get better at the mixing and mastering aspect of music production...so I ask people who are good at it.
Thanks! Sent you a pm regarding your questions.
J&B
Originally Posted By: Deej56
J&B and Peter,
Killer blues number—wonderful production, every single element. Peter’s guitar solos shine; Janice does her usual awesome job on those smoky vocals (nice scatting!). A wonder what you guys do with some of these old tunes. Sounds fresh and new! Great stuff!
What a great discovery! Loved this tune and of course it's a superb vehicle for Janice's amazing vocals. Terrific work putting it all together.
Glad you liked it. Thanks!
J&B
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi Janice, Peter and Bud.
This is so good that my "How Fantastic Is This Song?" meter went beserk!!!
From arrangement to performances to final production, this is very satisfying listening.
Janice: Your singing was way beyond brilliant. Your performance was bursting with sparkle and shine. After listening to this, I'm convinced that you own this genre! I loved the way you interwove your vocals with Peter's outstanding guitar playing. In so many ways, this was a duet of superb soloists coming together to create a masterpiece of the very highest calibre. Your scat singing had me grinning from ear to ear. It was sensational. You and Peter reminded me an awful lot of Cleo Laine and John Dankworth. In the below clip, Cleo does quite a lot of scat singing against John's saxophone playing. If you have a listen, I think you'll see why you reminded me of this couple.
Peter: Your guitar playing was absolutely incredible. I don't think I've ever heard you perform better. It seemed to me that you and Janice thrived on one another's musical energy. There was a remarkable synergy between the two of you that created a work where the "whole" was so much more than the "parts."
Bud: I don't know how you managed it, but you captured an incredible live-performance feel. This is truly a fantastic arrangement and mix. I envy your ability to pull this together and create such a fine finished product.
Literally... I'm blown away with the talent on show here.
All the best, Noel
You are too kind! But we appreciate every word Janice especially thanks you for mentioning the scat and the info about Cleo. We read about her and listened. Thanks.
Bud is most appreciative of your mention of the mix. The live feel is what we hoped to achieve.
And, yes, Peter is excellent in the way he accents the vocals!
Great opening. Immediately think "this is a good mix!" and a comprehensive band sound to introduce the song and the players. SOLID.
There is NO question - That girl should be a STAR. (She IS a STAR in my book). A "truly gifted singer" doesn't even begin to describe it... Simply - As Good As They Come.
Peter's guitar work just keep getting better and better. This is polished to a very high gloss. A stunning solo!!
Bass and Drums are PERFECT. Piano is tucked in nicely.
Scattin' brings goosebumps.
DAMN! the mix on this is good!! Pro. No Doubt.
"Hitting on all cylinders" and then some.
fj
Floyd said it perfectly!! Just like to add.....WOOOOOOW!!!! Take care. Greg
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