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#670064 - 08/25/21 05:02 PM [User Showcase] Meditation or Haunting?
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Meditation or Haunting?

The original song title is Meditation but my friend said it is more haunting than meditation so I will let you all decide what it is.

This is a couple of experiments combined into a song. First I have the bass playing the same E note throughout. The chord progression is Em-Am/E-Bm11/E. I have never done that before.

The second experiment is a guitar. I've read where a company is producing nylon string acoustic guitars with steel guitar necks so guitarist can easily play them. So I restrung an acoustic with folk strings, i.e. nylon strings with ball ends. I didn't mess with the nut as I just wanted to see how it would sound. Well it sounds a little "muddy" when playing chords but not to bad when playing leads. It sounds no where as good as my classical guitar so I am going to put steel strings back on it.

BiaB style - Peace - Gentle, Slow 4/4 New Age.
I deleted the bass and the guitar.
Piano - Velvet - preset = MK! Belly Ambient
Strings - Kontakt - Kurt Hunter's Virtuoso Bass
Me - Keyboard - nylon arpeggios - Kontakt - Amadeus Orchestra - nylon String guitar
Me - chords and leads - the above mentioned guitar.

As usual I am open for all comments, including constructive criticism.

{edit} I forgot to add that I am playing the flute (Kontakt - Jubal flute) via my wind controller.






Edited by MarioD (08/25/21 05:03 PM)
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#670101 - 08/25/21 08:33 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Mario

More meditative to me.

Nicely played and the guitar sounds fine.

A successful experiment.

Peter

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#670116 - 08/26/21 01:35 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Hi MarioD,

It is a very pretty composition. Soft and rich with a subtle mix that brings out the different instruments. The sound of the flute is very pleasant. Well done.

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#670126 - 08/26/21 03:35 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Ethereal... Just a beautiful piece.

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#670136 - 08/26/21 05:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Isn't meditation supposed to be haunting until the inner voice is quieted? Perfect title. There is a Miles Davis song (I forget the title right now) that has the bass playing a fourth from the other instruments. That pedal E really adds to the haunting, and it's also the steady drone that calms the chatter. That flute is the call of what could be.

Those strings seem perfect for the feel here, Mario. Just gave it a couple spins, and now I have to stand and shake out my legs. Next time I won't listen in the lotus position.
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#670162 - 08/26/21 08:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Mario,

Another nice New Age piece.

Nylon sounds good. Flute, too.

Mix is excellent.

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#670170 - 08/26/21 08:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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That throbbing chord electric piano or whatever it is that comes in around 0:30 is nice, fitting very well under the acoustic instruments. A very different, very unnatural sound, but they blend.

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#670178 - 08/26/21 11:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Mario,

That droning E sounds excellent under the rest of the instrumentation! The guitar experiment works well in my opinion! It's got that tone and sound of the intro of Yes's "The Roundabout". It's a beautiful piece that I would place in the "haunting" category.

Once again you have you have posted wonderfully beautiful music that carries the listener away!

Thanks, Torrey
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#670189 - 08/26/21 01:13 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: Torrey Bliss]
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Thanx everyone for listening and commenting on this experimental song. I greatly appreciate all of your comments.
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#670227 - 08/26/21 05:45 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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This is beautiful track... a blend of folklore and modern ambient music... I loved it!

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#670249 - 08/27/21 12:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Good one, Mario. Would sit nicely as incidental music in film or TV.
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#670262 - 08/27/21 04:44 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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You are truly the king of New Age music here I think, Mario!

This is great, the hypnotic rhythm section with the melodic leads from both the flute and guitar on top really works well.

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#670305 - 08/27/21 08:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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I would say this is much more meditation than haunting. Awesome chording giving nice modern flavor for the otherwise medieval feeling, the acoustic guitar sounds amazing, reminds me of Sting's work in such a way that I was waiting for him to start singing. Flute is beautifully ethereal. So much emotion in a less-is-more arrangement. I would love to hear a whole album of these gems, because three minutes is simply too short time to meditate smile

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#670324 - 08/27/21 10:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: jannesan]
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the midi king strikes again. and i mean that in a very very good way.
mario, you should be working with a company that specialises
in creating audio for films. this is your prima forte talent imho.
a very peacefull song.
nice composition.
for some reason once again i hear a subtle background massed choir singing along with this in the latter stages of the song. but maybe i'm biased as i like massed choirs..lol.
maybe a gradual build up over time ?
best to you.
om
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#670369 - 08/27/21 04:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: justanoldmuso]
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Will, Brian, Dave, Janne and OM thanx for listening, and commenting.

Dave, I am not the kind of New Age as there are others way better.

OM, I actually was thinking about adding a choir but thought that it would distract from the leads. Maybe I was wrong.
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#670380 - 08/27/21 06:06 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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I feel like this definitely could have been a meditation track for sure! It sounds right along the lines of guided meditations and was very peaceful and calming to listen to. I associate haunting as having more of a sorrowful quality to it - I got more serene from this personally!

Thanks for sharing.
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#670386 - 08/27/21 06:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Whatever it is called in music when instruments inter-weave, this track has it in spades. I didn't get the woo-woo at all. Meditation all the way, from my perspective; although, there is a native American flute player who does a lot of shows around Los Angeles and has CDs out. Can't recall his name, but he can send a chill up your spine when he starts making coyote sounds with that flute.


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#670447 - 08/28/21 12:16 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Meditative in a haunting way.

Nice either way.

The guitar is lovely.
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#670459 - 08/28/21 01:23 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: jptjptjpt]
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Thanx Ember, Ed, and JPTx3 for listening and commenting on this song. I greatly appreciate your comments.
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#670476 - 08/28/21 04:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Meditation or Haunting? [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Thanx Ember, Ed, and JPTx3 for listening and commenting on this song. I greatly appreciate your comments.

It's always a pleasure to listen to your content, Mario! Always happy to offer my thoughts.
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