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#673348 - 09/16/21 01:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT
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Did you know that Band-in-a-Box® is more than 30 years old? I stumbled across this 1990 magazine article explaining the relatively new program, and think it's an enjoyable read for any Band-in-a-Box user - it really shows that we are always listening to user feedback when developing our program!

Read the article: Boxing Clever: Band-In-A-Box Software

A few of my favorite statements:

"The intention of PG Music's Band-In-A-Box package is to couple that speed and convenience with the improved flexibility of the personal computer. Versions are available for the Atari ST, Mac, and PC compatibles. Have the programmers succeeded? And can they rid themselves of the stigma of the auto-accompaniment section? Given the above state of affairs, the first hurdle that the program has to overcome is one of acceptance and, frankly, a name like 'Band-In-A-Box' is a bad start."

(I think our name was a great start!)

"The final results are, to say the least, impressive. Band-In-A-Box achieves something that most hardwired auto-accompaniment sections have never been able to do - inject a degree of feel into the music. It really does sound more human than so many of the computer generated pieces I've heard."

"...I'm quite convinced that PG Music will have a winner on their hands. This is one piece of software that you can get more out of than you put in."
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#673350 - 09/16/21 01:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I’ve been using it almost 30 years. It’s fun to look back.
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#673351 - 09/16/21 01:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Excellent !!!
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#673430 - 09/17/21 04:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Wow, have you come a looong way or what! shocked

No seriously, this time you've really topped yourself, that's an absolutely brilliant find cool

p.s. If anyone could dig up a sample of what the program actually sounded like back then, with its 3-track limits and all, I'd be most interested to hear it wink
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#673440 - 09/17/21 06:36 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I think I bought it in 1991 or 1992, I can't remember, I used to have the diskettes. Remember those! Threw them out quite a while back when my wife said I had to clean/straighten my music room!
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#673568 - 09/18/21 03:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I well remember using BIAB on an Atari 1040ST. It certainly has advanced in all respects. Imagine how many diskettes you would need to use for the current version!
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#673578 - 09/18/21 04:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: PatrickS]
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going thru the attic i recently found an atari st sequencer 1 diskette and some games...ah those were the days.lol.

the st had good midi timing if i remember.
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#673584 - 09/18/21 05:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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#673968 - 09/20/21 08:10 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Congrats!

But there is no way anyone will ever, ever, ever compete with this EPIC demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdpWc0hT5OQ

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#673984 - 09/20/21 10:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Callie - PG Music
I think our name was a great start!


I recall being aware of the existence of BIAB back in the early 90s, but I never tried it out until a few months ago. Why not? Well, partly because of that name, which always had cheesy associations for me.

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#673988 - 09/20/21 10:34 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: David Snyder]
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Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Congrats!

But there is no way anyone will ever, ever, ever compete with this EPIC demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdpWc0hT5OQ



Great video flashback - thanks for the share!

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#673993 - 09/20/21 10:57 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: David Snyder]
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Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Congrats!

But there is no way anyone will ever, ever, ever compete with this EPIC demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdpWc0hT5OQ



Great video, we need Peters brother in law to join the forum.
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#674004 - 09/20/21 12:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Mark Hayes]
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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Originally Posted By: Callie - PG Music
I think our name was a great start!


I recall being aware of the existence of BIAB back in the early 90s, but I never tried it out until a few months ago. Why not? Well, partly because of that name, which always had cheesy associations for me.

I loved the name Band-In-A-Box way back in the midi only, floppy days... now, I think the name is "cheesy"... but I do love the program & PGM... and especially this outstanding forum.
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#674008 - 09/20/21 12:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: David Snyder]
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“The computer will add a few colorful things that will add some zip to the song.”

And there it is.
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#674009 - 09/20/21 12:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: musiclover]
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Originally Posted By: musiclover
Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Congrats!

But there is no way anyone will ever, ever, ever compete with this EPIC demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdpWc0hT5OQ



Great video, we need Peters brother in law to join the forum.

I totally agree... I love this guy...
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#674011 - 09/20/21 12:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
“The computer will add a few colorful things that will add some zip to the song.”

And there it is.


Ha, this is great
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#674058 - 09/20/21 05:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: David Snyder]
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Originally Posted By: PatrickS
I well remember using BIAB on an Atari 1040ST. It certainly has advanced in all respects. Imagine how many diskettes you would need to use for the current version!

Doing some rough math, if you were using 360k floppy disks it would take nearly 73,000 floppies to fit the Pro version of BIAB 2021, which is the smallest one available. For the Audiophile edition it would take nearly 4.5 million! The stack of floppies for the Pro would be almost 80 feet high, and for the Audiophile would be nearly a mile!

Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Congrats!

But there is no way anyone will ever, ever, ever compete with this EPIC demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdpWc0hT5OQ


Hah, great find David!
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#674904 - 09/25/21 08:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Simon - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
Doing some rough math, if you were using 360k floppy disks it would take nearly 73,000 floppies to fit the Pro version of BIAB 2021, which is the smallest one available. For the Audiophile edition it would take nearly 4.5 million! The stack of floppies for the Pro would be almost 80 feet high, and for the Audiophile would be nearly a mile!
Oh wow, if there was an award issued for the "Geekiest post of a thread", then this one takes the crown for sure! laugh
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#675140 - 09/27/21 08:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: Simon - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music

Doing some rough math, if you were using 360k floppy disks it would take nearly 73,000 floppies to fit the Pro version of BIAB 2021, which is the smallest one available. For the Audiophile edition it would take nearly 4.5 million! The stack of floppies for the Pro would be almost 80 feet high, and for the Audiophile would be nearly a mile!


Right, so if I were to install Pro at, say, 2 minutes per disc at 8 hours per day, I could be installed in just a little over 10 months.

I suspect many of us would be dead before we'd installed that audiophile edition.

It's easy sometimes to forget just how far things have moved on. My first hands-on computer, around 1973, was a Data General Nova 3 with twin 8" 160k floppies, a "massive" 128kB magnetic memory and a "top-loader washing machine" for 5MB Winchester + 5MB removable drive, the latter taking a couple or so hours to spin up or down.

My present actual washing machine almost certainly has more compute power, though it may still be lower on storage.

Now I casually consider whether to go to 1 or 2TB on my next SSD drive.

Hmm, I wonder, though not much(!), just how many tons of paper tape even that Pro edition would need.
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#675412 - 09/29/21 01:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Band-in-a-Box® - Boxing Clever - Sound on Sound #TBT [Re: bloc-head]
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