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Modern dance music feels high. But dance style in band in a box feels more popular. I also like this feeling. However, can we make some styles, including the true track, which is more like the timbre feeling of nexus and Avenger. Also come to some real tracks of electronic timbre. I also like all of you now, but I hope to make young people like it better. I don't know if I can.
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This is an interesting question. We have discussed the modern nature of music versus BIAB's more aged sound in the past, but maybe this emphasis on "dance" puts a bit of a spin on it. First, Nexus and Avenger are synth based loop music which is more dependent an vibe and groove including shifting rhythms and heavy beat. Nexus describes its product as "...Nexus delivers complex, ultra-fat, contemporary soundstorms". These may well be typical to modern dance music. But unlikely anything I could dance to. . Does that make me old? BIAB, on the other hand, is based on Chords and harmonic changes which support melodies . I would suspect that songs based on a "complex, ultra-fat, contemporary soundstorm" would have little in the way of a melody. BIAB is therefore more suited to songs. Maybe someone can answer this question better than me.
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I agree with Dan's reasoning that loops based dance music generally focuses on the beat while Band-in-a-Box dance music focuses on melody. I think that is actually a pretty astute observation myself. I hope this discussion continues. I believe swingbabymix has some specific thoughts how current dance music differs from Band-in-a-Box dance music and hope he will share his thoughts. In my opinion the second part of the initial post can we make some styles, including the true track, which is more like the timbre feeling of nexus and Avenger. Also come to some real tracks of electronic timbre is better suited for discussion in the +++ Styles and RealTracks Wishlist +++. I am happy to add my support for the suggestion once it is posted in the wishlist.
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The melody is beautiful. But there are too many melodies, which makes people feel tacky. I have a strange discovery that many music do not require high melody. Young people prefer rhythm and simple melody, which can make the voice feel cool. Actually, I think band in a box can do it. Because these are not as complicated as pop songs. First: make some dance styles Second: some commonly used electronic rhythm Third: integrate some pop and jazz, which is the strength of band in a box I think I will like band in a box more as I get older However, in order to let more young people use band in a box, a more modern dance music package should be added. According to my recent observation, people who use band in a box are generally very old. Of course, this has something to do with the long history of band in a box.
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Let's discuss it here. Why don't you post a post first? My English is not very good. I rely on Google translation.
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To me, most "modern dance music" seems very strongly quantized and the main rhythmic content is usually heavily compressed. That's pretty much the opposite to what RealTracks are doing, which is incorporating the interpretation, the variation, the human fallibility into the music.
But ... running a pop or jazz riff over that very strict rhythmic content can work well.
The catch is that most jazz has "swing", where the whole rhythm is very deliberately not quantized onto the 4/8/16 beats structure, and generally (IMHO), a mix of swung and straight sounds untidy or confused unless handled very carefully. A swung solo over a straight rhythm can work OK, just as a 5/4 solo over a 4/4 rhythm can work, provided the solo "floats" over the main rhythm and doesn't try to compete with it (again, IMHO).
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When I was studying EDM (Electronic Dance Music) to make my EDM disk http://www.nortonmusic.com/style24.html I learned a lot about different rhythms that at first listen may sound similar. The differences take time to recognize. I also noticed that many of them evolve which is why I made mix and match mega-styles on that disk so you can have A, B, C, and D parts that are related but vary. There isn't much (if any) melody in EDM. I prefer my music to have rhythm, harmony and melody, but there is more than one right way to make or enjoy music. On the other hand, after doing enough research in EDM I have a better appreciation for it than I had when I only listened to it casually. Insights and incites by Notes ♫
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"...Nexus delivers complex, ultra-fat, contemporary soundstorms". These may well be typical to modern dance music. But unlikely anything I could dance to. . Does that make me old? "that" doesn't make you old... that just Proves that you ARE old, and wise.
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In fact, I just want BIAB to integrate more content. Just strengthen the drums. And electronic voice. Bass for dance music. Then the feeling of DJ dance music came out. However, I prefer some Chinese classical pop music
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In fact, as long as BIAB adds some drums and bass that focus on modern dance music, it is easy to make electronic dance music. It feels like Avenger and nexus The biggest advantage of this is that BIAB can attract more young people. In fact, dance music is easier than those guitars. The guitar must be played by a master. Dance music is not necessary.
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I suppose it's BiaB's market share, but my EDM disk is one of my lowest selling style disks.
If it ever picks up, I'll do more.
The three best-selling genres for me are (1) rock (2) jazz and (3) Country, in that order.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
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Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
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Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
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Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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