Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
sslechta #674178 09/21/21 07:49 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,664
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,664

I don't like what these obscene, degenerate young people are doing here in this video Steve, I don't care if it's new.

It will lead to bad, bad things.

Next thing you know people will be talking about their body parts and taking off their clothes.

I say no!!

Just give me some of that old Pat Boone and I am fine!!!

HearToLearn #674179 09/21/21 09:11 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,254
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,254
I guess I was pretty vague about the whole "pop" thing looking back. I probably should have said what Bud mentioned, music on the pop charts. A quick reference...
Pop Chart Example

There has been a large trend to more of an 80's type of feel for the last year and half or so, which I have actually enjoyed.

I am one of those that is also in the "it's not about the genre" camp. If I like it, it's good to me.

As far as there being as many genres in the top of the pop charts as there songs in the top of the pop charts, I actually think there are not all that many. There are only a few represented, in my opinion.

I'm sorry Eddie, I have tried again and again, I just can't picture you at the Debbie Gibson concert. She definitely was and is talented. I think my brain just keeps going to the visual of you being one of the screaming fans when "Only in My Dreams" starts. There is a disconnect for me. grin

I hope I helped clarify what I meant by "Pop." I get a lot of music that hasn't traditionally been pop is blurring the lines.


Chad (Hope that makes it easier)

TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
JoanneCooper #674180 09/21/21 09:15 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,254
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,254
Originally Posted By: JoanneCooper
I am


Very cool. Any specific artists that are stand outs for you?


Chad (Hope that makes it easier)

TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,254
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,254
Originally Posted By: Bernard Rasson
I am mostly into pop music
But that does not necessarly mean what's currently on the radio
I am still a huge fan of the 80's


Any specific bands or songs? I have many from that time.


Chad (Hope that makes it easier)

TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
David Snyder #674188 09/21/21 10:26 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,519
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,519
Originally Posted By: David Snyder

I don't like what these obscene, degenerate young people are doing here in this video Steve, I don't care if it's new.

It will lead to bad, bad things.

Next thing you know people will be talking about their body parts and taking off their clothes.

I say no!!

Just give me some of that old Pat Boone and I am fine!!!


Sorry, David Pay Boone has gone all heavy metal on you...lol

https://youtu.be/vFNXZecffW8

Billy


New location, new environment, new music coming soon

Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
HearToLearn #674189 09/21/21 10:32 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
Originally Posted By: HearToLearn
I'm sorry Eddie, I have tried again and again, I just can't picture you at the Debbie Gibson concert.


It was actually funny and kind of a totality of circumstances thing. It was August of 1988 and she was not quite yet 18 years old. And this 37 year old man was a fan because she wrote her own music AND I knew she would have a great band behind her. (She HAD to!) My band of the time abused me regularly about that! And on my birthday in June of that year they bought me 2 tickets to her concert and a t-shirt with her picture on it. She played at our locally famous outdoor venue called Blossom Music Center. I took my "concert" girlfriend of the time (more on that later) and got to our seats in time for a really AWFUL opening act. She came on and the music behind her was as good as I expected. She was REALLY juvenile but she wasn't really there to entertain dirty old men. Her audience was 14 and I had a better time checking out the moms that drove their daughters out there than anything. She was an adorable 17 year old kid, dressed in 1987 hipster clothes, including that little skipper hat she wore, and she did 35 minutes, her whole album, and was done. No encore.

The girlfriend thing was unique. I had a concert girlfriend, a movies girlfriend, a sports girlfriend, and a dinner girlfriend. They each liked doing ONLY that (i.e. movie girl hated sports, sports girl hated dressing up for dinner, etc) and they all knew about each other. It worked because none of us was actually looking for anything more than casual fun times.

I DID feel out of place at that concert, which was strange because I had never felt that way before. And it has happened only once since. I wanted to see Daughtry when he came to Cleveland. He played at an auditorium on the Cleveland State campus. I went by myself because he IS an acquired taste. I never saw so many men in leather pants in one place before or since, and I may have been the only straight male in that building. I left before his encore to beat the traffic, but man, he is an outstanding singer. Great band too. I kept looking for, but did not find, that hot ex-stripper he was married to at the time (And might still be. I don't really follow the guy.)

For the record, MY fat azz was NOT in leather pants. The ASPCA has laws against killing enough cows at one time to wrap this body in leather.

Last edited by eddie1261; 09/21/21 10:34 AM.

I smashed the hell out of my car today. When the cops came I told him "Officer, that guy was BOTH texting and drinking a beer." The cop said "Sir, he has every right to do that. I mean, it's HIS living room..."
Planobilly #674195 09/21/21 11:46 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,664
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,664

And that Alice Cooper is a complete fraud.

He goes to Camelback Baptist I believe and teaches Sunday School!!!!

My word!!!

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,074
Originally Posted By: bobcflatpicker
If you define "pop" as what is currently popular on the radio, then I've rarely been into pop.

I haven't turned the radio on in my car or elsewhere for at least 10 years or more. I actually never listen to anything in the car. I find it annoying.

I've never really liked much of what the general public wants to hear. You'd have to go back to the 60's or 70's for me to care much about pop.


I think that is the generally accepted definition of "pop" (aka popular ... because it's on the radio)

Even back in the day the deep cuts and B sides of the radio bands weren't considered pop among my circle of friends.

sslechta #674207 09/21/21 02:29 PM
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,629
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,629
Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
For me there are only two kinds of music (1) music I like and (2) music made for someone other than myself.

This is exactly how I define music. I'll happily jump from listening to Billie Eilish (pop) to Between The Buried And Me (technical death metal) to Snarky Puppy (jazz/funk) to Bent Knee (art rock) to Beethoven (you know who he is). All of this music can be considered pop if you ask the right group.

Genres these days are a lot more flexible than they used to be. Take this song for example - they're a modern metal band, but I guarantee most of you will be surprised at how not-heavy it is for the most part:


Last edited by Simon - PG Music; 09/21/21 02:32 PM.

I work here
HearToLearn #674269 09/22/21 02:39 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,080
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,080
Here is a sideline question, is pop music that is a year old still pop? How about 5? 10? 40?

Does pop music degenerate in classification in time?

When I was 40 years old, I decided to market my duo to the retirement audience. It's a big, stable market here in South Florida and while the bars and lounges have dropped live music, until COVID my gigs were very stable. It was a good decision for someone who wants to make a living doing music and nothing but music in my area of the country.

When I started this, pop to the adult crowd was Glenn Miller and Frank Sinatra. Pop music that was 35 years or so old. As time passed, Elvis Presley and Roy Orbison entered the mix. Then the Beatles, later The Cars.

Now Miller and Sinatra don't get any reaction, a little of Elvis still does, but not too much, and it seems that the Beatles will be next to fade into oblivion. We'll keep learning new 30 or so year old songs, and play whatever our audience likes to hear.

It seems we are playing pop music between 30-55 years after they hit their peak on Billboard. Is it still pop?

My audience considers it popular, and it's popular with them?

For the years I was in a top40 band, anything a year or two old was no longer on the playlist. It wasn't popular anymore.

10 years or more, it returns on the 'oldies' stations.

Like many on this forum, I find pop hard to define.

If you mean current top40 - I like some and don't care for some. It depends on whether it tickles whatever it is inside me that moves me.

Notes ♫


Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
Notes Norton #674271 09/22/21 03:04 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,257
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,257
Great summary, Notes, and well worth consideration.

Pop is whatever any specific party considers 'popular'. It doesn't mean 'the latest', 'the newest', the 'most different', the 'most unique'. Ultimately, it means how 'popular' it is with the listener. Every audience will have a specific idea of what they find popular. I can dig that.

Clearly you have developed skills to read an audience, and know what music they find to be 'popular'. In summary, 'one size doesn't fit all' smile There's no right way or wrong way.


BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
For me there are only two kinds of music (1) music I like and (2) music made for someone other than myself.

This is exactly how I define music. I'll happily jump from listening to Billie Eilish (pop) to Between The Buried And Me (technical death metal) to Snarky Puppy (jazz/funk) to Bent Knee (art rock) to Beethoven (you know who he is). All of this music can be considered pop if you ask the right group.

Genres these days are a lot more flexible than they used to be. Take this song for example - they're a modern metal band, but I guarantee most of you will be surprised at how not-heavy it is for the most part:



SIMON! That was spectacular. I'd call it stripped down metal, maybe. It has the 'elements' even when it was quiet..the jagged rhythm, dissonance, and all that.

It's just that they were out of costume (except the drummer, but only when he was shirtless). They look like the next six or so hipsters through the doors at Starbucks. How can they be metal without the costumes?

But that singer! Lord-a-mercy. Those are probably the best vocals I've heard in a long, long, long ever.


----


On topic: Pop is like [*****]. I have a hard time defining it, but I know it when I (see) hear it. I've always liked the majority of what made it to radio, as long as it doesn't wear out its welcome.


BIAB 2021 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground
HearToLearn #674284 09/22/21 04:40 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,378
Really? [*****] got the asterixes? It looks nastier like that than what I actually typed.

I'll try this: Pop is like typography. I can't always define it, but I know when I see a typo.

Last edited by Tangmo; 09/22/21 04:43 AM.

BIAB 2021 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground
HearToLearn #674286 09/22/21 04:47 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
I have this theory, untested since I don't play with the frequency of even a part time player (and certainly not as much as Notes plays), but I believe an audience will enjoy and appreciate anything performed at the highest level. Thus I have never succumbed to the popular notion that you have to play radio hits. That notion is what results in a Stairway to Freebird with a side of a Brown Eyed Girl named Mustang Sally. I will not play "that list" in a feeble and transparent effort to endear myself to an audience. I will play what I want to play, and I am going to have a band that plays it SO WELL that they will have no choice but to adore us for what they are hearing. And it will include about 20% of my own writings.

Drivers really loved the Corvette and the Firebird. Should every car maker have tiptoed down the party line and make one of what every other car maker is already doing, or is there something to be said for being unique?

To be honest, I don't even know what's on the radio in 2021. I have not listened to a radio for at least 15 years. Other than the artists that make the news for reasons outside of music, I can't even really name many of them. Simon mentioned that Billy Eyelash person/thing whatever that is. Lady GooGoo.... an of that I avoid. Now take me down the Average White Band and Earth Wind & Fire path, I'm there. Note though that this is also my basic personality. I don't concern myself with other people's opinions too much. I am right, and I feel sorry for people who are not smart enough to know I am right. I have been taken to task SO often for my attitude toward audiences, that attitude being that when you are in a place I am playing, you are on MY turf, and in this arena if you are not a player, I am better than you. When I am in your accounting office, or your welding shop, or your decorating design firm, you are better than me. But this stage, this is MY domain and you don't tell me what to play. Your role here is to sit and listen and be amazed at how good we are. (And we WILL be great or I will not be involved in it! Therein lies the reason why I can't keep a band. We rehearse until I say it's right. There is no "good enough" in music. There is "great" and "suck". Nothing between. But that "attitude" topic is for a different thread. And I have plenty of it!)

On topic, sit and drink your gin and tonic and marvel at how good my band is. That's your role here. Harsh? Yep. But I myself am harsh, and extremely hard on myself. I missed an exit point on a song 2 gigs ago because with no monitor I didn't hear the out cue. I wanted to go offstage and drink a cup of poison. But as usual, that's just me.


I smashed the hell out of my car today. When the cops came I told him "Officer, that guy was BOTH texting and drinking a beer." The cop said "Sir, he has every right to do that. I mean, it's HIS living room..."
Mark Hayes #674289 09/22/21 04:51 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,688
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,688
Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
pornography


Huh, so it wasn't that word. What did the forum auto-censor?

HearToLearn #674315 09/22/21 08:28 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
I just got an email from a friend who was scheduled to play a show for a high school at a roller rink in October just before Halloween. They required that he send a set list of about 50-55 songs songs they might play. On the list was Saliva's "Click Click Boom". They were told they couldn't play it because click and boom MAY be interpreted as being related to guns. Also on the list was Monster Mash, which was deemed unfit because the subject matter was "too morbid". For Halloween. WHAT??? Also George Michael's "I Want Your Sex". (I MAY get that one.)

He replied to the email informing the school that he would not be censored and was canceling. According to him (and know that he is the same kind of wise azz I am) he added

"PS. We may be available for the book burning or the witch hunt. Send us the tentative dates."

MONSTER MASH??? Banned from a HALLOWEEN SHOW??? What year is this? How long have I been asleep?

The school was a nearby Christian Academy, which may explain the tight sphincter. But Monster Mash???

Last edited by eddie1261; 09/22/21 08:29 AM.

I smashed the hell out of my car today. When the cops came I told him "Officer, that guy was BOTH texting and drinking a beer." The cop said "Sir, he has every right to do that. I mean, it's HIS living room..."
HearToLearn #674316 09/22/21 08:40 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,688
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,688

HearToLearn #674322 09/22/21 09:21 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,294
As soon as I got his email Mark, I went to that VERY search. It is CRAZY what is on that list.


I smashed the hell out of my car today. When the cops came I told him "Officer, that guy was BOTH texting and drinking a beer." The cop said "Sir, he has every right to do that. I mean, it's HIS living room..."
eddie1261 #674324 09/22/21 09:24 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,688
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,688
Originally Posted By: eddie1261
As soon as I got his email Mark, I went to that VERY search. It is CRAZY what is on that list.


Sounds like the post-9/11 "do not play on the radio" list recently mentioned.

HearToLearn #674329 09/22/21 09:40 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,519
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,519
We use to play a song called "Clean Straight Shooter" in a couple of biker bars that liked us and paid us well.

They were very fond of the rude off-color songs. Homophobia was rampant as was racism.

"Straight shooter" is a type of crack pipe and it also can be used to say I am not gay. The guys in the biker bar loved it and demanded we play it at least two times a night.

I played the song once in a black bar where I am very well known and some thought it was funny. Mrs Johnson, the owner, came to me and said " Billy don't be playing that [*****] in here. We got crack pipes laying on the ground right outside the door. You know Jonny OD last week and we got enough of that and don't need you reminding us".

So, the bottom line is, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Contrary to what you may think, the world does not revolve around "your" perception of what is acceptable. It's not your choice what you can sing in certain venues.

Billy


New location, new environment, new music coming soon

Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Happy Easter! Holiday Hours...

2024 is well underway - it's already Easter Weekend!

Our Customer Service hours this weekend are:

Friday, March 29: 8-4
Saturday, March 30: 8-4
Sunday, March 31: closed

Regular hours resume Monday, April 1st - no joke!

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created this short video to explain Audio Input Monitoring within Band-in-a-Box® 2024, and included some tips & troubleshooting details too!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Audio Input Monitoring

3:17: Tips
5:10: Troubleshooting

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#audio-input-monitoring

Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!

We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!

Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.

You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.

See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.

Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,400
Posts732,555
Members38,443
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
danielsk, Mark Morgan, zagrajbarke, Ernest J, Izzy
38,442 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 199
Al-David 132
DC Ron 116
rsdean 84
dcuny 83
Today's Birthdays
(charlie), WobblyGstring
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5