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This is a stand-alone version of popping. In the stand-alone version, the problem is very serious.
In studio one, you can adjust the buffer to 1024 to alleviate this problem, but it will not be completely solved.

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What sound card are you using? Could be a sample rate mismatch (like 44.1K vs 48K).


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Originally Posted By: TheMaartian
What sound card are you using? Could be a sample rate mismatch (like 44.1K vs 48K).


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TheMaartian:

What you said is the most basic knowledge.
I won't make such a low-level mistake.
In order to make BB VST operate normally, I have lowered the settings 44.1 and 16bit
I set the buffer to 1024 so that there was no burst.
I know everything about settings. Don't say I'm a setup problem.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
TheMaartian:

What you said is the most basic knowledge.
I won't make such a low-level mistake.
In order to make BB VST operate normally, I have lowered the settings 44.1 and 16bit
I set the buffer to 1024 so that there was no burst.
I know everything about settings. Don't say I'm a setup problem.


Not to start a war but sometimes one can overlook the obvious, been there-done that.

I have heard noise like what you uploaded when things were running in the background. Have you tried disabling your Ethernet card via the device manager, your anti-virus, and your anti-malware? I do this when I am using my DAW and it has eliminated those artifacts. YMMV


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What type of audio interface or sound card do you use?


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I reinstalled the win10 system and reinstalled all the drivers.
Everything else is fine
Including the main program of band in a box
Everything is fine.
But as long as I use BIAB VST or Band-in-a-Box Daw plugin standalone
There are all kinds of problems, popping
My settings are all right. 44.1 and buffer are correct.
If you are a PC or windows and you use BB VST, you will find problems such as popping
I guess many people here mainly use the band in a box main program
I have no problem using the band in a box main program.
All troubles come from band in a box VST and standalone
I'm sure that the Band-in-a-Box Daw plugin has many problems and needs to be upgraded immediately grin


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FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII, The latest official driver 4.65 is installed

I use the band in a box main program. Everything is fine.
All troubles come from band in a box VST and standalone
I'm sure that the Band-in-a-Box Daw plugin has many problems and needs to be upgraded immediately




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What's the buffer in the preferences.
If the older BiabVST has no popping then it's something that should be fixed in next release.

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Pipeline and swingbabymix - can you reinstall build 840 and see if the popping problem persists?

https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#840

842 and later generate 32-bit files, where previously it was 16-bit. I'm curious to see if this makes a difference.


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I have restarted the pc since and don't get the cracking when playing within the VST.

Could find just the biab_daw_plugin_3.8.6.exe else you need to download 600meg of stuff you already have.
3.9.9 is using bbw4 841

There was no crackling with the earlier 1.4.2 before it was restarted so something has changed in the recent with the 32bit stream.

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Swingbaby, I have used the plugin both on Mac and win 10 and have no issues of popping at all. I not suggesting your problem is not real, just pointing out that it may be some type of setting or something internal. I found Studio one to be the issue more often than the VSTi, or the standalone. I would go so far as to even check my cables and connections. I once had an issue that turned out to be the USB port I was using.


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I didn't install 840
I installed version 842 directly


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Originally Posted By: Rob Helms
Swingbaby, I have used the plugin both on Mac and win 10 and have no issues of popping at all. I not suggesting your problem is not real, just pointing out that it may be some type of setting or something internal. I found Studio one to be the issue more often than the VSTi, or the standalone. I would go so far as to even check my cables and connections. I once had an issue that turned out to be the USB port I was using.



I use BB VST popping in studio one at least.
If I use BB VST in FL Studio, popping is more.


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Try with this:

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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
I use BB VST popping in studio one at least.
If I use BB VST in FL Studio, popping is more.


It sounds like there is an issue in the current VST.

My crackling stopped after restart so I could not test the 3.9.9

biab_daw_plugin_3.9.9.exe

current to revert to
biab_daw_plugin_3.9.12.exe

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Try with this:


You mean check use high quality tempo string
Or uncheck use high quality tempo string
My setting is always to check use high quality tempo string

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
I use BB VST popping in studio one at least.
If I use BB VST in FL Studio, popping is more.


It sounds like there is an issue in the current VST.

My crackling stopped after restart so I could not test the 3.9.9

biab_daw_plugin_3.9.9.exe

current to revert to
biab_daw_plugin_3.9.12.exe



I haven't used 3.9.9
I'll try it now


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I used 3.9.9.exe
However, it is found that in 3.9.9, extra and riffs cannot be used

Look at the video:

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Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
Pipeline and swingbabymix - can you reinstall build 840 and see if the popping problem persists?

https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#840

842 and later generate 32-bit files, where previously it was 16-bit. I'm curious to see if this makes a difference.


I installed 3.72 and the popping problem disappeared
But an error pop-up appears. Cause all programs to close



I followed 3.99 and the pop problem disappeared
But extra and riffs cannot be used

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THANKS, so hopefully popping should be fixed for next release.

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Why do you have 3.9.9 grin

Can't you use your 3.99 extra and riffs?

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3.9.9 has BUG no multiriff frown

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
3.9.9 has BUG no multiriff frown


Has anyone confirmed this claim? Is it in S1 or Reaper or Standalone or all three?

By the way, 3.9.9 was recalled within 24 hours of release at least 2 weeks ago, because of a serious issue reported. 3.9.12 replaced it the next day. So no need to look at 3.9.9.


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That is version 3.9.9 and was never released. It was used only in the beta forum for 1 day when this was issue was reported. It was replaced with v3.9.12 which fixed this problem. But I already told you that!

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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Are you all enjoying the show? crazy

And the nominees for Best Actor in a Music Website Forum are...

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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
... Has anyone confirmed this claim? Is it in S1 or Reaper or Standalone or all three?

YES affirmative

Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
... It was replaced with v3.9.12 which fixed this problem. But I already told you that!


I gave the users 3.9.9 as it used a earlier version of bbw4 before it rendered to 32bit:
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I installed 3.72 and the popping problem disappeared
But an error pop-up appears. Cause all programs to close

I followed 3.99 and the pop problem disappeared
But extra and riffs cannot be used


I tried it in 1.4.2 and there was no noise, I loaded 3.9.12 on another track and there was noise !

You maybe using USB ASIO device, try it with another audio device or on-board audio.

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You maybe using USB ASIO device, try it with another audio device or on-board audio.


I've been using USB ASIO
Does BB VST not allow ASIO?????


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Was asking MusicStudent to try another device and he may get popping:

Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I can not reproduce this! I did exactly what you did in the video. BIAB-VST 3.9.12 does not have any sound artifacts on my machine with a randomly selected Song/Style demo....


Just have to wait for BUG fix.
Adar is very busy now on version 4.

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
Was asking MusicStudent to try another device and he may get popping:

Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I can not reproduce this! I did exactly what you did in the video. BIAB-VST 3.9.12 does not have any sound artifacts on my machine with a randomly selected Song/Style demo....


Just have to wait for BUG fix.
Adar is very busy now on version 4.


Can each of us see a stable new version in October?


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Yes there should be a fix soon.
Ver 4 will be in December I would think.

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That's the best news I've heard grin


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