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I was going to finish the song in BB VST.
However, it was finally found that it was better to complete the song first in the main program of band in a box.
But I don't know much about the main program of band in a box.
There are two main questions:
First: although it is divided into ABCD paragraphs, it is not particularly obvious. For example, a starts with intro, but the feeling changes when it returns. It is not intro at all. It is different from what was played just now. How can we control the change?
Second: how many settings are appropriate for a song to end? 32 or 64? I have no experience in these. I hope you can help me. thank you


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Pop music uses arrangement labels like Inro, Verse, Bridge,.

Band-in-a-Box uses the jazz method of arrangement where there is a non repeatable introduction, a chorus that repeats as many times as desired (the default chorus repeat is three (3) times and a no repeatable ending.

A song can be as short or as long as you desire. The shortest number of bars Band-in-a-Box can handle is two (2). The most number of bars Band-in-a-Box can handle is two hundred fifty five (255).

Use part marker (1) when you want a fill or (2) when you want to change the intensity of the song. An "A" part marker is less intense and a "B" part marker is more intense.


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Jim Fogle:

The key changes every time it is strong or not.
How can I clearly mark the beginning, main song and chorus


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
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The key changes every time it is strong or not.
How can I clearly mark the beginning, main song and chorus
One method I use is Bar-based Section Letters. Right-click on a bar number and you'll see. I might use I, V, C, B for Intro, Verse, Chorus, Bridge.


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Because my English is not good, it is difficult to understand.
Whether there is a screenshot or an operation video is better.
Now I try to do everything well in BIAB, and then transfer to bbvst


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Because my English is not good, it is difficult to understand.
Whether there is a screenshot or an operation video is better.
Now I try to do everything well in BIAB, and then transfer to bbvst

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thanks. But why is this C?
What I see is this.

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You asked:
"How can I clearly mark the beginning, main song and chorus"
Matt and I answered that question

Follow my 3 numbered steps.

1: Right Click
2: Choose Bar Based Section Letters from the context menu
3: Choose a letter you want to appear, "C" for Chorus, "V" for Verse etc. and that letter will be added to the bar.


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Oh, I see. You just mean that as a mark.
I mean, sometimes the paragraph changes are not obvious. Sometimes I mark the beginning, but repeat it once, such as choruses x 2. When I repeat it for the second time, the sound of the beginning paragraph changes. It's hard for me to control.
I think I'm not familiar with the software and where the settings are wrong.

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I recorded a video. Although it is segmented, it sounds that the distinction is not big

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Two things:

1: In the video you pressed Play, not Generate and Play, so therefore the song would not be regenerated (previous variations would remain the same unless you made a deliberate change to the song).

2: In Song Settings (Control-N), if you have Vary Style in Middle Choruses set to "Yes," the song will play in sub-style B for the second chorus. That could be the variation you are hearing.

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thank you.

In Song settings, I think it is checked by default. Should I remove the check??


In fact, I just want the paragraph to be clear.
Is there any kind of setting that can clearly divide the four paragraphs intro, verse, chorus and bridge
Then, each generation will have a small melody rhythm change, but the four paragraphs are still very clear.


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You listen to this beginning and cycle back in 50 seconds, but the effect is different and stronger. It's not intro anymore. That's what I said, what confused me.
I hope it can. It doesn't change every time


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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
An "A" part marker is less intense and a "B" part marker is more intense.



HI,Jim Fogle

A and B are not strong and strong
So what is the relationship between C and D? C. What is the relationship between D and a, B?


This is a screenshot of the teaching video I saw on the official YouTube

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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix

In Song settings, I think it is checked by default. Should I remove the check??

Yes. Remove the check and regenerate and listen the to difference. Each play through the song will be a similar 'energy level'.


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In fact, I just want the paragraph to be clear.
Is there any kind of setting that can clearly divide the four paragraphs intro, verse, chorus and bridge
Then, each generation will have a small melody rhythm change, but the four paragraphs are still very clear.

BiaB doesn't work this way. It uses the concept of a Chorus, where each chorus is one play through the song.
You can have Intro, one or more Choruses, and a Tag ending which can jump from any bar within the last chorus.

BiaB doesn't support Verse, Bridge etc by those names. The 'Chorus' concept is the way the developers designed it.

Feel free to experiment with settings and listen the the results. You'll begin to better understand how things fit together.

This song has a 4-bar intro, the Chorus start from bar 5 to 45 and repeats 3 times:

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yes. My tangle is that every repetition is different.
I finally have to save it and finish the song in Daw through bbvst.
But because every repetition in BIAB is different, I don't know how to keep it.
So I thought I should write a complete song in BIAM and save it. Finally, call bbvst and use.
The general idea is that BIAB comes up with a framework. Complete the song in Daw with the help of bbvst.

You gave me the "bandinabox for windows part markers Overview" on the official website last time. I think it's very useful. Are there any similar tutorials? For "part markers"


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yes. My tangle is that every repetition is different.

You can fix that. You can 'freeze' the tracks so that they don't change each generation.
After you generate/play the song and like the way it sounds, freeze each track. The 'snowflake' icon turns blue.
After that, every time you play the song those tracks will always sound the same, there will be no changes in the performance for any tracks you have frozen.

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yes. My tangle is that every repetition is different.

You can fix that. You can 'freeze' the tracks so that they don't change each generation.
After you generate/play the song and like the way it sounds, freeze each track. The 'snowflake' icon turns blue.
After that, every time you play the song those tracks will always sound the same, there will be no changes in the performance for any tracks you have frozen.




Will the snowflake function also work in bbvst?
I'm thinking or going directly to BBVs to constantly generate the melody I need, which is also possible. I'll try later.


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After testing, if C / D is used in BIAB, it cannot be used in BB VST.
Because bbvst can only recognize a and B


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Will the snowflake function also work in bbvst?
I'm thinking or going directly to BBVs to constantly generate the melody I need, which is also possible. I'll try later.

Good. Let us know your results.


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