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Do you often use JAZZ STYLE?
I personally think that this JAZZ style is very much in BB, but I rarely use it.
Jazz style is also difficult for him to integrate into other types of music.
I mainly use POP music style feel.

What is the music style you use most often?


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Maybe Jazz practice ?

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Mostly I use Jazz styles. Without them, I would probably not be using BiaB at all.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
I mainly use POP music style feel.

I use many different styles in my music. Why should I restrict myself to only one type? Music is universal, and so are the musical styles.


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
I mainly use POP music style feel.

I use many different styles in my music. Why should I restrict myself to only one type? Music is universal, and so are the musical styles.


I think there are too many jazz styles grin


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I use mostly jazz styles when I use styles. Sometimes I just choose individual RealTracks and make my own sound (which can be saved as a style).

BIAB started as a program to play jazz fake books, but over the last two decades I think they have made a terrific effort to balance the RealTracks and styles they add. For every time I read there is too much jazz, someone says there is too much country or too much rock guitar etc.

If you want to make suggestions for new sounds, just go to the Styles and RealTracks Wishlist Forum. For best results, give them a song link so they know what the sound is.


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Look at JJazzLab it was made by Jazz guys same as Biab but they both have other styles, it's not ALL Jazz. I like all the genres Biab has I just move in a different way to them smile

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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack

I use many different styles in my music. Why should I restrict myself to only one type? Music is universal, and so are the musical styles.


Same here.

Also the genres are not built in stone. I've used country styles in jazz and rock songs, jazz styles in country and rock songs, etc.

Explore various styles and have fun.


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The set of styles I use the most are the BLANK styles.

BLANK styles do not have MIDI patterns, MIDI patch numbers, RealDrums, MIDI SuperTrack or RealTrack instrument assignments or loops.

BLANK styles do include time signature (3/4 or 4/4), feel (even or swing), key signature (C) and tempo.

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Jazz styles are really fun to play with! Music classes in school usually start with a focus on jazz or classical, and ours was the former many moons ago when I was in school still. I also like using the various rock styles!


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Originally Posted By: Ember - PG Music
Jazz styles are really fun to play with! Music classes in school usually start with a focus on jazz or classical, and ours was the former many moons ago when I was in school still. I also like using the various rock styles!



Maybe I don't listen to jazz very much
I always think Jazz feels the same grin


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Haha - that's what I often think about Pop laugh

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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Maybe I don't listen to jazz very much
I always think Jazz feels the same grin
I fully acknowledge the grin.

You may listen to more than you think. There are all kinds of jazz and fusion styles around. Some people say they hate jazz, but they think "trad jazz" is all there is, or "cool jazz".

The fact that you're experimenting with BiaB, suggests your mind is likely receptive to other music styles.

These may offer an insight into variation:
https://youtu.be/ItvpE5PCQk0
https://youtu.be/o5cELP06Mik
https://youtu.be/yp6JEdp6mZw
https://youtu.be/eE_D6Kve1SM
https://youtu.be/TDrzQwq8dz4
https://youtu.be/WhudDa3JAyc
https://youtu.be/KRLwsSbqlwo

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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Maybe I don't listen to jazz very much
I always think Jazz feels the same grin
I fully acknowledge the grin.

You may listen to more than you think. There are all kinds of jazz and fusion styles around. Some people say they hate jazz, but they think "trad jazz" is all there is, or "cool jazz".

The fact that you're experimenting with BiaB, suggests your mind is likely receptive to other music styles.




I personally like these music very much. Good to hear.

However, if these songs are very different from many popular songs now.

Please note. I don't hate JAZZ music, I also like it very much, but I think it's almost the same. In fact, I prefer modern songs full of personality.

Now young people may prefer cooler music. Cool music, I don’t know if you can understand what I mean. Modern songs sound more vibrant. Happier, more suitable for dancing, more suitable for shooting short videos, more in line with modern trends.


The following songs are loved by young people all over the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGwWNGJdvx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31crA53Dgu0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP7kiw5Fk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPf0YbXqDm0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09R8_2nJtjg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papuvlVeZg8


There are many examples of similar songs. These are the music that young people all over the world like now. In the car, in the shopping mall, any place is often heard. Cheerful! hapiness! modern!

However, when opening BIAB, you can clearly feel that BIAB's STYLE is mostly different from these. Maybe this is the style of BIAB? BIAB just likes to produce more JAZZ? This is suitable for more people to practice songs?
I don't know this, because the future direction is completely in the hands of the BIAB team.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
These are the music that young people all over the world like now. In the car, in the shopping mall, any place is often heard. Cheerful! hapiness! modern! However, when opening BIAB, you can clearly feel that BIAB's STYLE is mostly different from these. Maybe this is the style of BIAB? BIAB just likes to produce more JAZZ? This is suitable for more people to practice songs?


Please understand that for many old people all over the world, music serves to help us come to terms with our impending deaths. We also find old-fashioned JAZZ music useful in stimulating digestion and promoting regularity.

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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
These are the music that young people all over the world like now. In the car, in the shopping mall, any place is often heard. Cheerful! hapiness! modern! However, when opening BIAB, you can clearly feel that BIAB's STYLE is mostly different from these. Maybe this is the style of BIAB? BIAB just likes to produce more JAZZ? This is suitable for more people to practice songs?


Please understand that for many old people all over the world, music serves to help us come to terms with our impending deaths. We also find old-fashioned JAZZ music useful in stimulating digestion and promoting regularity.


This is a very good thing. Everyone will get old, and I will get old slowly in the future.

But my mom and dad are 70 years old and they also like this kind of music. Not only do I like to listen, but I also dance with him, although we don't understand what he is singing, even I am Asian.



I suddenly had an idea. Is there a few more versions of BIAB?

BIAB senior version for old people

BIAB pop Version for Young People grin

I made a joke, grin
any form of music is the best gift of life.



I found another nice song, share it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyHvyGVs42U

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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
I suddenly had an idea. Is there a few more versions of BIAB?
BIAB senior version for old people
BIAB pop Version for Young People grin
I made a joke, grin

Words fail.

I guess I at least need to clarify that my previous post was sarcastic.

Old people do not actually listen to JAZZ to help them poop.

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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
I suddenly had an idea. Is there a few more versions of BIAB?
BIAB senior version for old people
BIAB pop Version for Young People grin
I made a joke, grin

Words fail.

I guess I need to say that my previous post was sarcastic.

Old people do not actually listen to JAZZ to help them poop.


grin grin

I thought it was real.
But I found that reggae music is really good.
Reggae music makes me beat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5irTX82olg


And this classic old song, I think it’s no problem to make it with BIAB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obi4iELWJ3Y


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swingbaby,

there are a couple of factors that shaped modern pop of these days, in particular:

  • If you want to remember something new, you need a structure in which you can integrate that new thing (synapses). The more different synapses you already have for a specific topic, the easier you can remember new things of that topic. The average listener / the mass has built up a relatively low number of music-related synapses. Therefore the mass needs simple melodies and simple progressions to be able to adopt a song (this has almost always been the case, so this first factor is not very specific for nowadays). Only if the mass adopts a song, it becomes POPular => Pop
  • Within the last two decades, it became more and more difficult to find melodies that don't violate any copyright. So the music producers even more resign from distinctive melodies.
  • The internet made it easier to rip a high number of songs, so that more and more people refused to pay money for songs.
  • Digital music software with all those ready-to-use-loops made it easier for people with a low knowledge of music theory to produce songs, and social networks made it easier to distribute them. So from that side, the market has been flooded for a while, so that many people from the mass have built up synapses for that stuff, which was mostly made upon a low overall number of quite simple progressions.
  • Streaming platforms then made almost every professionally produced song cheap and very easily available, so that radio and TV don't generate a commonly shared knowledge of music anymore. And with tools like Spotify's Release Radar, people don't get out of their own music-clouds anymore. The lowest common denominator for a song to reach into the majority of these clouds is ... a low number of quite simple progressions.

This all more and more merged together then. So now, many professional music producers say to themselves: "Why making at least medium creative songs, if that takes quite long to do, enhances the risk for very expensive copyright lawsuits and will currently not be adopted by the mass as much as simpler songs - and that all while the mass would even prefer to do illegal things than to pay the small amount of one appropriate dollar per song?"

Even artists who perform relatively simple music, often don't listen to that genre privately. That counts not only for Pop Music, but e.g. also for some Rock musicians or some Country musicians.

Many people's usage of vocabulary like "Cool" derives more from what a person grew up with than from some objective criteria. And "Modern" is often not more than what the mass adopts currently, but doesn't automatically stand for a high degree of creativeness.

I agree on one thing: If PG wants more customers, it should get better known among younger people. That includes more styles etc. which the kids are used to (many of them? - well, at least superficially, since there are not sooo many essential differences between those songs, as explained above). But it also includes a couple of other critical aspects.

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Originally Posted By: MoveToGroove
swingbaby,

there are a couple of factors that shaped modern pop of these days, in particular:

  • If you want to remember something new, you need a structure in which you can integrate that new thing (synapses). The more different synapses you already have for a specific topic, the easier you can remember new things of that topic. The average listener / the mass has built up a relatively low number of music-related synapses. Therefore the mass needs simple melodies and simple progressions to be able to adopt a song (this has almost always been the case, so this first factor is not very specific for nowadays). Only if the mass adopts a song, it becomes POPular => Pop
  • Within the last two decades, it became more and more difficult to find melodies that don't violate any copyright. So the music producers even more resign from distinctive melodies.
  • The internet made it easier to rip a high number of songs, so that more and more people refused to pay money for songs.
  • Digital music software with all those ready-to-use-loops made it easier for people with a low knowledge of music theory to produce songs, and social networks made it easier to distribute them. So from that side, the market has been flooded for a while, so that many people from the mass have built up synapses for that stuff, which was mostly made upon a low overall number of quite simple progressions.
  • Streaming platforms then made almost every professionally produced song cheap and very easily available, so that radio and TV don't generate a commonly shared knowledge of music anymore. And with tools like Spotify's Release Radar, people don't get out of their own music-clouds anymore. The lowest common denominator for a song to reach into the majority of these clouds is ... a low number of quite simple progressions.

This all more and more merged together then. So now, many professional music producers say to themselves: "Why making at least medium creative songs, if that takes quite long to do, enhances the risk for very expensive copyright lawsuits and will currently not be adopted by the mass as much as simpler songs - and that all while the mass would even prefer to do illegal things than to pay the small amount of one appropriate dollar per song?"

Even artists who perform relatively simple music, often don't listen to that genre privately. That counts not only for Pop Music, but e.g. also for some Rock musicians or some Country musicians.

Many people's usage of vocabulary like "Cool" derives more from what a person grew up with than from some objective criteria. And "Modern" is often not more than what the mass adopts currently, but doesn't automatically stand for a high degree of creativeness.

I agree on one thing: If PG wants more customers, it should get better known among younger people. That includes more styles etc. which the kids are used to (many of them? - well, at least superficially, since there are not sooo many essential differences between those songs, as explained above). But it also includes a couple of other critical aspects.


In fact, I really like the reggae style music in BIAB.
But the drums in BIAB are not very good.

I replaced it with a more modern drum, which immediately felt modern.


That kind of Latin music is my favorite. They have many elements. It feels like dancing.

I recorded a video, take a look

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