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#675795 - 10/01/21 09:50 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Mixer /Midi channel number question
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By now, I think I should know this stuff... but I do not.
If I have a Midi(Super trk) on one of the mixer slots, how do I know WHICH midi channel it will be using?
I have something on mixer slot #6 (Legacy), but the midi channel it is using is 4.

The way I usually do it is I would just set VST synth midi to Omni, and try channels one by one until I find the one it plays on.

Is there a way to see in mixer panel which midi channel it is outputting to?

Thank you!


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#675807 - 10/01/21 11:53 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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By default, the mixer channel instrument assignment is determined by a .dk file loaded at startup.

Here are those default instrument assignments from the Options Menu.


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#675813 - 10/01/21 12:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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If you're creating a new song file in Band-in-a-Box the MIDI channel settings will follow the channel settings in the MIDI Settings window, Preferences (Ctrl+E) > Channels.

However, if you import a MID file and the MID file has MIDI channel assignments then the MID file assignments over rides the program defaults.


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#675815 - 10/01/21 01:03 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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This is one of those screens that needs to be revised to accommodate Utility Tracks (or whatever they become).

I could do a test, but perhaps someone here knows: let's assume the song uses the default channels as shown above by Jim and Charlie. Does this mean if you change a RealTrack bass to a MIDI instrument, that MIDI instrument will be on MIDI channel 2? I think it does, but I never checked.
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#675819 - 10/01/21 01:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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Charlie, Jim
Thank you!

So I guess there is no way to view it within the mixer. Unless memorized - deep menu is the only way.
In my opinion it should be done within the mixer. Not only to view, but re-assign Midi channel. Just as with any major Synth/Sampler, Daw and most of other software that uses Midi.

I think it might be a good candidate for Wishlist smile

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#677520 - 10/12/21 02:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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I noticed that recording midi to a Utility track didn't sound on my external midi module.
Changing midi channnel in the mixer didn't work (where the midi channel should be set).
A softsynth like TTS-1 could play the midi from the utility track, so I gather some midi routing needs to be fixed. smile

Cheers,
Pete

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#677661 - 10/13/21 10:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: PianoPete]
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Originally Posted By: PianoPete
I noticed that recording midi to a Utility track didn't sound on my external midi module.
Changing midi channnel in the mixer didn't work (where the midi channel should be set).
A softsynth like TTS-1 could play the midi from the utility track, so I gather some midi routing needs to be fixed. smile

Cheers,
Pete

Each Utility Track is multichannel and can have 16 channels of MIDI. Anything you record into a Utility Track will be recorded on whatever MIDI channel the keyboard was set to.

To change what MIDI channel your recording is on you would use the Piano Roll editor. In there, use the "Chan" drop down menu to select the channel your notes are on, right click in the note area and choose Select All Note Events, change to the MIDI channel you want the notes on, then right click again and choose Re-Channel Selected Events To The Current View Channel.


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#677665 - 10/13/21 10:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Simon - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
Each Utility Track is multichannel and can have 16 channels of MIDI. Anything you record into a Utility Track will be recorded on whatever MIDI channel the keyboard was set to.
This is VERY powerful, Simon. Thanks.
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#677685 - 10/13/21 12:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
Each Utility Track is multichannel and can have 16 channels of MIDI. Anything you record into a Utility Track will be recorded on whatever MIDI channel the keyboard was set to.
This is VERY powerful, Simon. Thanks.

You're welcome, and yes this is very powerful. 16 Utility tracks, each with 16 MIDI channels, making 256 total MIDI channels.

It'll be very handy for recording instruments that output on multiple MIDI channels, like some guitar MIDI implementations, or maybe controllers like the Roli Seaboard or Haken Continuum.
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#677687 - 10/13/21 12:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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Perhaps you could consider a Callie-type announcement here, and make it a sticky. I don’t think this news has caught up with the many users who for years requested more MIDI channels. Blow your horn on this one.
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#677708 - 10/13/21 03:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Mixer /Midi channel number question [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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Certainly Matt, that's a great idea! I'll mention it to Callie, and between the two of us this might be a great news post.
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