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#677666 - 10/13/21 10:52 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] BLANK Styles
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Jim Fogle Offline

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The four BLANK utility styles need some attention and updates.

There are three (3) blank swing styles versus one (1)blank even style.
Two (2) blank styles have a tempo of 100 and two (2) blank styles have a tempo of 120.
Two (2) blank styles are assigned to the Jazz genre and two (2) blank styles are assigned to the Pop genre.
The 'Long Name" of the four blank styles do not follow a consistent pattern.
The "BLANK34" long name does not describe if the feel is even 8, even 16, swing 8 or swing 16.
The "Other Genre" labels differ with two (2) Jazz and two (2) Pop.

May I suggest the following changes and additions:

Change "BLANK 34" feel from "sw8" to "ev8".
Change the tempo of all BLANK styles to either 100 or 120. My preference is 120.
Change the Genre of all BLANK styles to "Utility" or leave the field empty.
Change the Group of all BLANK styles to "Utility" or leave the field empty.
Change the "Other Genres" to "Utility" or leave the field empty.
Add BLANK utility styles with 16th feel to compliment the existing 8th feel BLANK utility styles.
Add BLANK 2/4 utility styles with even, swing feel and both 8th and 16 note resolution. Note this request was originally made by forum member Islansoul.

The suggested changes and additions will make it easier for user to create custom MIDI, MIDI Supertrack and RealTrack styles while starting from a clean slate.

I would like it noted that when this subject was previously mentioned Peter Gannon made this response:
Those are good ideas, we should have every combination of silent styles
... for 4/4 and 3/4

> For example, anyone have any idea how a BLANK ev8 style would differ from a BLANK ev16 style?

There are lots of places in BIAB that make use of this. For examples:
1. If you have a ev16 style loaded and want to switch to a Ev8 style, BiaB will prompt you (by a green flash message) asking you if you want to expand the chords and melody ;and double the tempo)
2. When finding best soloists, RT, chord substitutions, it will match a 16th based soloist to a 16th based style.

For Ev8, Ev16, &Sw16 vs Sw8 the same thing applies, with the addition that the notation window in Sw8 (not sw16) displays using triplets (simplifying to 8th notes for two eight notes as in jazz)

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Edited by Jim Fogle (10/13/21 10:57 AM)
Edit Reason: Added Peter Gannon Comments
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#677724 - 10/13/21 05:48 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: BLANK Styles [Re: Jim Fogle]
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I will go ahead and pass this suggestion and feedback along! Thanks so much.

#677747 - 10/14/21 05:49 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: BLANK Styles [Re: Jim Fogle]
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#677977 - 10/15/21 07:36 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: BLANK Styles [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Hi Jim,

The blank utility styles have been fixed and additional blank utility styles have been added. The updated files will be available soon to users. Thank you as usual for your input, it helps us very much.
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#678025 - 10/16/21 09:06 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: BLANK Styles [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Matt Finley Offline

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Jim’s analysis is very thorough. Thanks for making these improvements.
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