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lol.
my wife needs a new win budget laptop for her work.
been looking at acer 5 for example.
what i cant seem to find out is do the new laptops come with 2 nvme ssd slots. very little info on ltops that come with 2 ssd slots.
preferably fast boot..would appreciate any input.
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If you google/bing laptop computers with 2 nvme ssd slots you will find some answers. From what I saw a couple with 2 such slots while most have only one. A deeper search than my glance may prove me wrong.
I hope this helps and good luck.
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Mario.
best to you.
i posted cos ive been googling like crazy n finding v little info on 2 ssd nvme or 2 slot m.2 ltops.
its surprised me actually the lack of product.
most are one slot.
of course i have nefarious reasons my wife says lol.
i figure see how good hers is, if good...also might be usefull for running daw apps etc when away from home etc
on holiday and sketching out ideas.
i mistakenly assumed 2 slot internal ssd was widely available.
thanks/god bless.
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i mistakenly assumed 2 slot internal ssd was widely available. It's quite a high-end feature in a laptop. Look at brands like Sager for that kind of feature, and maybe professional series laptops like some Lenovo Thinkpads and HP Elitebooks. On the budget side, you may find a laptop that has an M.2 slot as well as a 2.5" SATA bay - that would allow you to install two SSD's, albeit with one of them being a little slower than the other (but still MUCH faster than a hard drive).
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Simon. good call on the 11400. check this desktop deal by acer with ssd and 11400 etc. 900 buckies cdn https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/ace...mp;gclsrc=aw.dswhaddya think for a daw. ive used acer in the past. never EVER had even a sniff of a problem. ---------------------------------------------- on the wife lappie need, once again looks like acer 5 might be one solution. for value. but no 2 ssd slots looks like...maybe a ryzen. whaddya think of these lappies for a daw. pricey tho'. https://www.adkproaudio.com/audio-video-production-computers/music-production-laptopsom om
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It looks like it'd be fine, but for the price you could build something far cheaper, or even have something custom built. Parts cost for an 11400 machine is about $675 for CPU, motherboard, 16gb ram, 500gb SSD, case, 450w power supply, and Windows 10 Home OEM. Most of the local shops will assemble and install Windows for around $100 if you buy the parts from them, so you're around $775 plus tax for an assembled computer. Replacement parts on something like that are easier to source - I'm not sure about Acer, but modern Dell/HP/other desktops use proprietary connectors for many things, and typically you can't replace the motherboard or PSU... They look humongous, but if your goal is a mobile recording studio that's exactly the kind of thing I'd buy.
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Simon.
merci n thanks.
v good points bout parts.
i wish threadripper amd werent soo pricey.
wifey wants to buy me the biab 2022 upgrade for xmas.
i'm spoilt. she says that way she gets the tv remote lmao.
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wifey wants to buy me the biab 2022 upgrade for xmas.
i'm spoilt. she says that way she gets the tv remote lmao.
There's always a trade-off, isn't there? 
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Simon.
merci n thanks.
v good points bout parts.
i wish threadripper amd werent soo pricey. Same, I'd love one. The i5 and my other i9 machine will do well for me though. wifey wants to buy me the biab 2022 upgrade for xmas.
i'm spoilt. she says that way she gets the tv remote lmao.
There's always a trade-off, isn't there? Not a bad tradeoff I think - I'd much rather be making music than watching TV!
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Simon.
well as tv is awful these days (cept pbs) maybe i'll build a new pc for the studio.
based around that 11400 or a cheap ryzen. with 2 nvme or m.2 ssd. 32 g ram etc etc. gonna look at different mainboards.
i havent been keeping up on mainboards for awhile. i gotta do research.
tv has got silly with tooo many ads. specially american tv...in any half hour say of big bang its like half is all darn ads.
it seems the pandemic has meant even more ads. dunno why.
(ps evo has not disappointed yet/given me hassles.)
any tips on pc builds greatly appreciated.
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There's always a trade-off, isn't there? Not a bad tradeoff I think - I'd much rather be making music than watching TV! Me included!
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Simon.
well as tv is awful these days (cept pbs) maybe i'll build a new pc for the studio.
based around that 11400 or a cheap ryzen. with 2 nvme or m.2 ssd. 32 g ram etc etc. gonna look at different mainboards. Ahh yeah, PBS is good. What do you need two NVMe for? Get one big one and partition it if you need to. On my upcoming 11400 machine, I'll have a 2tb NVMe and 32gb ram so those specs look good to me.
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Simon.
re 2 nvme.
in the spinning drive era for studio pc.s i used to have 2 drives in a desktop. one for win and one for daw duties,..so this let win do its own thing on its own physical drive. daws in the past seemed to work better that way. lots of studios did it plus mebe a third drive if into sample libs. a plus was also cross back ups.
now mebe given the speeds of nvme mebe this approach isnt needed these days. but i just like 2 drive approach ssd
cos also drives are cheap these days.
to explain further..way i work is once a song is finished
i offload to a raft of on site and offsite backups...
includeing old drives i put in enclosures and usb pen drives. i'm a tad crazy when it comes to backups.
also got couple of those usb boxes i can put ssd;s
n old spin drives in. lots of back up options.
thus i dont need big size drives.
couple of 256 gig nvme would do it for me.
one for win, and one for daw work...as i do a song at a time.
ideally simon, i would like a processor rated on cpubenchmark.net at 20,000...but i cant find one thats in my budget. so the 11400 rated at 13,000 i hope might fit the bill.
anyhoo most of my songs max out at 30 odd traks. and i'm not a plug in nut. i use mainly low resource plug ins. an old la producer i once knew used to
say 'if ya need a zillion traks n fx...
mebe songs no good...'
so far , over the years ive done bout 90
songs useing biab/rb/reaps , and keeping his philosophy in mind.
hope i make sense.
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Simon.
re 2 nvme.
in the spinning drive era for studio pc.s i used to have 2 drives in a desktop. one for win and one for daw duties,..so this let win do its own thing on its own physical drive. daws in the past seemed to work better that way. lots of studios did it plus mebe a third drive if into sample libs. a plus was also cross back ups.
now mebe given the speeds of nvme mebe this approach isnt needed these days. but i just like 2 drive approach ssd
cos also drives are cheap these days. Ah yes, that makes sense. Multiple SSD's won't make much difference in speed in some circumstances, since they would all connect over DMI which is a x4 link and most NVMe SSD's are x4, so the link speed would be effectively shared on two SSD's if I'm understanding it correctly. I think transferring data from one SSD to the other would be faster but you're not likely to be doing a lot of that from the sounds of it. Logically speaking though, it can definitely be handy to have system and audio data on separate SSD's. i'm a tad crazy when it comes to backups.
also got couple of those usb boxes i can put ssd;s
n old spin drives in. lots of back up options. IMHO if you're not "crazy when it comes to backups", you're not really backing up. ONE backup is not enough. I was taught that 5 backups, some in different locations, was the minimum. ideally simon, i would like a processor rated on cpubenchmark.net at 20,000...but i cant find one thats in my budget. so the 11400 rated at 13,000 i hope might fit the bill.
anyhoo most of my songs max out at 30 odd traks. and i'm not a plug in nut. i use mainly low resource plug ins. an old la The 11400 is rated at 17290 from Passmark, that should be plenty fast. My i9 is only 18823, not much difference - both are MUCH faster than my work machine with an i5-3550 which is rated 4770! It does the job fine though, more than enough for the audio work I do here. Get plenty of RAM - I went with 64gb on my studio machine, but I probably end up with more tracks than you do for the type of music I'm doing.
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Simon.
thanks for the reply.
tbh when apple m1 came out i found it v interesting.
but figured as apple was now doing its own silicon,
replaceing intel that intel strategically would reply with new product in some manner.
what i cant assess is 11400 vs m1 performance wise.
it doesnt look to me that m1 is slaying the 11400.
or am i incorrect in this viewpoint.
for example it doesnt bother me that 11400 is a couple of secs slower than m1 in mixing to stereo a 30 trak mix.
the m1 IS superb tech, i'm just wondering , in real life daily daw use how much diff a daw user might notice m1 over the 11400 given both useing ssd's.
just out of curiosity why 11400 over say a ryzen 5.
what mainboards do you like for 11400.
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Passmark has a benchmark available for the M1 - it's rated at 15161 vs the i5-11400 rated at 17290. Remember that the first systems they put the M1 in were the more "light duty" systems like the MacBook Air and Mac Mini, the fastest of which are still a solid 30-40% slower than the M1. Also keep in mind that we're comparing a CPU that consumes only 15 watts and doesn't require a fan to a CPU that consumes 65 watts and requires active cooling.
Now they've just released the new M1 Pro, which benchmarks slightly higher than an i9-11900...
I personally chose Intel as some audio apps still don't perform as well on AMD. Motherboards, I like whatever is on sale.
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Simon.
i cant believe it, but refurbs are already appearing for m1 mac mini and 11400. i saw a couple of deals this week
on both but already snapped up. people are getting wise to the refurbs.
thanks for the info. its impressive the power needs of the m1...
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I'm not surprised there are refurbs for either. For Apple at least, anything is a refurb if it entered customer hands - aka if it was bought and returned opened. People have been wise to Apple refurbs for a while, but a bit slower on the Windows ones.
I'm very impressed with the M1 myself. Having 85% of the power of my i9 desktop in a 1.6cm thick laptop is just mind-blowing.
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Years ago, I wandered into a common electronics store looking for a windows laptop - something to do documents on.
Their used prices were amazing. I ended up with a medium level Dell for $200.00. It had Windows 10 with no extras (ads, games, etc.)
Only problem it had was scratches from the security locks to keep it in the store while it was on display.
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