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Jim Fogle thanks. re point 2 the plus pak. according to the details plus pak is for 2021 ultrapak users. i'm on 2020 ultrapak. will it still work ? it seems silly to buy the 2022 ultrapak and rebuy a ton of stuff i already have in 2020.
merry xmas. om
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It can be painful and costly to miss the annual updates and then try to catch up. Been there and done that.
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The 2022 PlusPAK works because it gives you the package content introduced in 2022.
However, you will not have content introduced in 2021 as well as the bonus content from 2021 and 2022.
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I liked this excellent, informative tutorial, and really appreciate that there was very little distracting, superflorus background music, as there is in many other BIAB videos... great work PGM.
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I liked this excellent, informative tutorial, and really appreciate that there was very little distracting, superflorus background music, as there is in many other BIAB videos... great work PGM. Absolutely well put together and explained. This should especially allow users to become familiar with the new features with minimal effort. Outstanding.
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After watching the video, I have to say this is the most excited I've been about a BiaB release in years, maybe ever. Ordinarily, I focus on the Real Tracks and judge the new release based heavily on my impressions of them. This has been particularly true in the years that the new features seem to be incremental improvements or tweaks to things I never use. This release blows me away and offers some features many of us have wanted for years. PG seems to have really knocked this one out of the park!
For me, Micro Chords are a game changer. My pet peeve with BiaB has always been that I was chained at the ankle to quarter note changes. No more. This also effectively eliminates the need for the push in entering chords. You can now change the chord wherever you want it to change, rather than being tied to what the program generates. Ditto with the motif feature. These two used in combination expands a world of creative possibilities and takes an already powerful program to the next level.
I never even considered volume automation within the program itself. Mainly because, BiaB was so far behind in some basic features over the years, that it seemed the least of my worries. I always created my own using my DAW's automation lanes anyway, but this is an excellent addition and gives the user a high level of control. Hopefully, new releases will see other parameters become editable as well.
Playable RealTracks is a welcome addition too. So often, I generate a section for a solo or something and it's "almost" right. I've sometimes used my DAW's editing tools to change a note here or there, and even Melodyne. But to go into the piano roll and replace the notes generated from BiaB? That's very useful and should yield a more organic sound, that theoretically wouldn't produce artifacts.
I'm looking forward to the Drum Stems discussion in part 2.
So one question I have is about backwards compatibility. Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond? Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets? Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets? Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015? Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets? Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones?
I haven't downloaded it yet. I probably will tomorrow, but I'll close with an additional question I didn't see covered in the video. Does Micro Chords entry support all the basic chord entry options, such as shots and holds, etc? I noticed you can separate the notes with commas, as in regular chord entry but it would be awesome if you could accent a note with a shot or whatever.
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> So one question I have is about backwards compatibility.
>Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond?
Yes, The micro chords, multi riff, motifs, work on all RealTracks, including the old ones.
>Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets?
We are in the process of adding more of them, with the goal of having all of them be playable rt. We have all the material, it’s just a question of time as we add them. There are 400 now, and many of those work on multiple RealTracks since the same instrument was used.
>Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets? Yes, as above.
Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015? Yes.
>Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets?
>Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones? _ we have the source material for the RealDrums, and it takes time to make the stems. But yes, we plan on making all the RealDrums available as stems. Right now we have 40 of them as stems.
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Thanks for that clarification, Peter. That will help us to assist what are expected to be popular questions from many users.
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Question: is it possible to add your own notes in RealTrack using a MIDI keyboard or it can only be done using mouse in step sequencer fashion?
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Question:
How many official styles are there now? I mean those displayed on the stylepicker page
Last edited by swingbabymix; 12/07/21 04:54 AM.
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Finally watched it completely, even parts that of less interest. Tobin, well done!
What Tobin mentioned about micro chord showing up at 42:09 "would like to see those myself..." +1
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> So one question I have is about backwards compatibility.
>Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond?
Yes, The micro chords, multi riff, motifs, work on all RealTracks, including the old ones.
>Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets?
We are in the process of adding more of them, with the goal of having all of them be playable rt. We have all the material, it’s just a question of time as we add them. There are 400 now, and many of those work on multiple RealTracks since the same instrument was used.
>Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets? Yes, as above.
Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015? Yes.
>Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets?
>Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones? _ we have the source material for the RealDrums, and it takes time to make the stems. But yes, we plan on making all the RealDrums available as stems. Right now we have 40 of them as stems. Thank you for the prompt reply. It is very much appreciated. It's awesome that these features are either already backward compatible or that there are plans to make all the previous sets work with the new features. I downloaded my copy today. I also have to give a big thumbs up to the new download manager as well. Not the sexiest feature unless you've done it all manually in past years. Overall, the best release to come along since the introduction of RealTracks themselves.
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Best Video I have seen so far I think. More informative and relatively digestable.
Thank You
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Great video!
Actually, the new track settings window is, with multiriffs, my favourite new feature from 2022. It allows you to concentrate on making music, rather than searching through menus and menus. Giant steps in the right direction!
Last edited by Cerio; 12/09/21 04:48 AM.
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Great job on the drum stems!
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Watching the pt2 video, I've realised that, because some styles will use the utility tracks, loading a new style could/would set a utility track up with a new instrument/musician, presumably ousting whatever was there before, which could be a track of my own. (Sorry, I'm on a Linux at the moment without my Wine install so I have no place to try this).
The obvious question is, Is there a way to stop that happening or warn about it, and/or is there a best practices way to avoid it (using the higher number tracks for my own stuff is an obvious candidate)?
Heh ... there's a Dilbert I love: If "Best Practices" is what everyone is doing, then it's the same as mediocre.
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Gordon. Freezing a track prevents the styles from using it.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Happy Easter! Holiday Hours...
2024 is well underway - it's already Easter Weekend!
Our Customer Service hours this weekend are:
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Regular hours resume Monday, April 1st - no joke!
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!
We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!
Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.
You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.
See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.
Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist
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