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I saw a picture, I don’t know how this chord is written in BIAB.



My query in Scaler is Bmin7(b5)
But how to input in BIAB, I don't know.

Because I'm too stupid, so...
In addition, it is strongly recommended to design a keyboard in CHORD construction for easy viewing grin

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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Mr. Mix, this won't be the answer you want, but there is a certain character string in the screenshot you just uploaded. Reflect on it.



I didn't understand what you mean

This?

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Look at the screenshot you uploaded.

A character string appears against the black background, white letters with red outlines.

Can you see it?

I'm attaching a hint.

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In BiaB you can type the letters:
bm7-5
or
bm7b5

I don't actually know what your question is. Do you understand the particular chord, and exactly what it means?


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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Look at the screenshot you uploaded.

A character string appears against the black background, white letters with red outlines.

Can you see it?

I'm attaching a hint.



7,5


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
In BiaB you can type the letters:
bm7-5
or
bm7b5

I don't actually know what your question is. Do you understand the particular chord, and exactly what it means?



I am asking how to enter.
I know chords, but I don’t know how to enter them correctly. Because many people have their own way of writing. And there is no keyboard in BIAB, I don’t know if it is the same as I thought


Could you please tell BIAB official, add a black border keyboard here. thanks

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You can also enter from the Chord Builder. But I think your lack of music theory is not assisting you.

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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Look at the screenshot you uploaded.

A character string appears against the black background, white letters with red outlines.

Can you see it?

I'm attaching a hint.



7,5


So much for the "Socratic Method", but I see help has arrived.

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Chord Builder does allow entry by just selecting the required parts of the chord. Right-click the Chord cell and select Chord Builder (or Ctrl-Shift-B)


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
You can also enter from the Chord Builder. But I think your lack of music theory is not assisting you.



With the help of SCALER, I have no problem finding chords.
The problem is that every software is written differently, and I am afraid of typing errors.

If the chord build builder has a keyboard display, it will be more convenient


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
If the chord build builder has a keyboard display, it will be more convenient

But it does not, so you have to work with the tools you are provided with. That is what we do.
If you learn music theory, you can then visualize the keyboard notes of a chord in your head.


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If the question is, "How do I enter a B minor seventh, flatted fifth chord into BIAB?" the answer should be easy to find, even by just experimenting, but if necessary by consulting documentation.

If, however, the question is, "How do I enter a 'Bmin7(b5)' chord into BIAB?" that will be a brick wall, because BIAB will choke on the parentheses.

The secret to success and happiness here is recognizing that "Bmin7(b5)" is the name Scaler is using to refer to a particular chord, and figuring out how to enter that chord into BIAB.

But I hear the response coming, and it is, "I want a keyboard".

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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
If the chord build builder has a keyboard display, it will be more convenient

But it does not, so you have to work with the tools you are provided with. That is what we do.
If you learn music theory, you can then visualize the keyboard notes of a chord in your head.





thanks~

The main reason is that the nomenclature of chords in each software is different.
Especially the SCALER software
The names are different, sometimes problems arise.
It shouldn’t be difficult to put a keyboard in the chord builder, right?

With the keyboard, you can help more beginners like me.
Experts certainly don't need it. But in order to help more people, there should still be a keyboard. After all, there are so many ordinary people like me. grin


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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
If the question is, "How do I enter a B minor seventh, flatted fifth chord into BIAB?" the answer should be easy to find, even by just experimenting, but if necessary by consulting documentation.

If, however, the question is, "How do I enter a 'Bmin7(b5)' chord into BIAB?" that will be a brick wall, because BIAB will choke on the parentheses.

The secret to success and happiness here is recognizing that "Bmin7(b5)" is the name Scaler is using to refer to a particular chord, and figuring out how to enter that chord into BIAB.

But I hear the response coming, and it is, "I want a keyboard".



Yes. Because I am strict. The same thing, multiple ways of writing, make me confused. If there is a keyboard, I can determine right and wrong.
The keyboard contains 7, 2, 4, 6
So, no matter how to write, I know this is what I need.

I currently see three ways of writing
Bm7-5
Bmin7(b5)
Bm7b5

For someone who is not very smart like me, let’s give a keyboard on Chord builder. grin


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
let’s give a keyboard on Chord builder. grin


Your capacity for mind-numbing repetition is disturbing.

I'm going to have nightmares tonight that in the morning, there will 10 new threads complaining that there should be a keyboard.

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Yes, this is a mess:

B ∅
Bm7b5
Bm7♭5
Bm7-5
Bmin7(b5)
B minor seven flat five
B minor 7 flat 5
B minor 7th flat 5
B half diminished
B half-diminished chord
B half-diminished 7th
Si half-diminished chord
Si minor seven flat five
And some more combinations...

The solution is, obviously, a keyboard for the chord builder grin


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Regarding this keyboard feature:

1: Do you press several keys and the program tells you what the chord is?
Or
2: Do you enter the chord, and the keys show you what notes are used?
or
3: You just want someone else to work out the answer and supply it to you?

If it's the first option, than you will get many different answers. Some confusing.
If it's the second option, just learn music theory and you will know the answer already.
It it's the third option, refer to the second answer.


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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes


I'm going to have nightmares tonight that in the morning, there will 10 new threads complaining that there should be a keyboard.



I want to enter your dream grin

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If you know the notes and want to enter them using an external keyboard, BIAB already has this. It’s in the Windows menu, MIDI Chord Detection.

And BIAB has a shortcut key, h, for a minor seven flat five chord. Type Bh

And the Chord Builder can show you the correct way to enter a chord in BIAB. VideoTrack showed this above. As you have discovered, there is not complete standardization of chord notation and you just need to learn and adapt to how each program does it. It’s not that any individual music program is right or wrong; it’s just the reality of the situation.

To everyone else, the OP is correct in his understanding and he asked a perfectly reasonable question.


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