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What an I doing wrong or can't BiaB so this. I'm trying to do a song similar to I'm a Man. I put the Micro chords in but everything get messed up big time. I have restarted this song many times so I know it is not a corrupted file. I have used many different MIDI blues style with all yielding the identical results. I tried to search the database but I couldn't find anything that would help. I have attached the SGU file so hopefully you can hear what I am hearing and maybe someone can show me what I am doing wrong.

Thanx in advance for your time and efforts, it is much appreciated.

PS - I'm using 2022 BiaB version 914.

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Originally Posted By: MarioD
What an I doing wrong or can't BiaB so this. I'm trying to do a song similar to I'm a Man. I put the Micro chords in but everything get messed up big time. I have restarted this song many times so I know it is not a corrupted file. I have used many different MIDI blues style with all yielding the identical results. I tried to search the database but I couldn't find anything that would help. I have attached the SGU file so hopefully you can hear what I am hearing and maybe someone can show me what I am doing wrong.

Thanx in advance for your time and efforts, it is much appreciated.

PS - I'm using 2022 BiaB version 914.

Which version of "I'm A Man" ? Artist?


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
What an I doing wrong or can't BiaB so this. I'm trying to do a song similar to I'm a Man. I put the Micro chords in but everything get messed up big time. I have restarted this song many times so I know it is not a corrupted file. I have used many different MIDI blues style with all yielding the identical results. I tried to search the database but I couldn't find anything that would help. I have attached the SGU file so hopefully you can hear what I am hearing and maybe someone can show me what I am doing wrong.

Thanx in advance for your time and efforts, it is much appreciated.

PS - I'm using 2022 BiaB version 914.

Which version of "I'm A Man" ? Artist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcAmwCnAChk&t=17s


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What an I doing wrong or can't BiaB so this. I'm trying to do a song similar to I'm a Man. I put the Micro chords in but everything get messed up big time. I have restarted this song many times so I know it is not a corrupted file. I have used many different MIDI blues style with all yielding the identical results. I tried to search the database but I couldn't find anything that would help. I have attached the SGU file so hopefully you can hear what I am hearing and maybe someone can show me what I am doing wrong.

Thanx in advance for your time and efforts, it is much appreciated.

PS - I'm using 2022 BiaB version 914.

Which version of "I'm A Man" ? Artist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcAmwCnAChk&t=17s
Ok, Muddy Waters' version is a shuffle feel... I'll play around with it. I've played this song hundreds of times over the years... achieving that feel in BIAB is tricky...


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I just can't get those micro chords to react properly.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
I just can't get those micro chords to react properly.
I’ve just started wrestling with this. I watched the video but haven’t quite mastered it.


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I think the microchord sections are missing the A to make biab play corectly - start with the primary chord first not the microchord. Thats the chord that gets greyed out.

Hope this helps a bit

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I remember the Bo Diddley one.
I went into the Micro chords but I can't adjust it and play it while in the dialog.

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Originally Posted By: Keith44
I think the microchord sections are missing the A to make biab play corectly - start with the primary chord first not the microchord. Thats the chord that gets greyed out.

Hope this helps a bit

Keith


I thought of that but that didn't do the trick. Attached is my example.

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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I remember the Bo Diddley one.
I went into the Micro chords but I can't adjust it and play it while in the dialog.


If Pipeline can't do it then nobody can do it. It looks like PGM had a great idea but terrible execution, much like the VST.

Luckily I work in MIDI so I can take one measure, move it to my DAW, manipulate said measure then copy and paste it where I want so all is not lost.

Thanx all for trying to help.


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I tried all sorts of combinations and could not get it to sound right either. Spent about a hour on it and gave up.

You can preview the sheet music here and it will also play a sample. This will at least let you see how the music notation was laid out.

https://www.sheetmusicdirect.com/en-US/se/ID_No/16711/Product.aspx


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Tried to download the 2nd version but it shows ZERO bytes.


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I haven't given up either... yet.
I've made a little progress, in spite of the quirky behavior of this new feature...


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Originally Posted By: jcland
Tried to download the 2nd version but it shows ZERO bytes.


Something went wrong here. Here is that version again; this time I checked it and it works:

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Ok, this is what I came up with.
another old Muddy Waters tune with a similar feel...
attached, is my Biab file.
I also posted a vocal version on my SC page...

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a link to my attempt at Muddy Waters...


Hoochie Coochie Man on SC

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A quick attempt...

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Thanx Bloc-head and Cerio. Both of your versions are using RTs while mine used MIDI. I just experimented with your SGUs and replaced your RTs with MIDI. Sometimes it worked and other times it didn't. Apparently micro chords work perfectly with RTs but not with MIDI. Thus it looks like I will have to do my song with RTs then in my DAW change them to MIDI.

Thanx again for your help.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Thanx Bloc-head and Cerio. Both of your versions are using RTs while mine used MIDI. Apparently micro chords work perfectly with RTs but not with MIDI. Thus it looks like I will have to do my song with RTs then in my DAW change them to MIDI.

Thanx again for your help.

You're welcome... Micro Chords are not perfect, but hopefully will be.
At least I got another tune in the can... or is it a "Can 'o Tuna" ???


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On song Hoochie Coochie Man2.SGU

I noticed that on the ending you have A7-D7 A7-E but the song only plays 1 chord for those bars even after doing regeneration.

You seeing the same thing?


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Originally Posted By: jcland
On song Hoochie Coochie Man2.SGU

I noticed that on the ending you have A7-D7 A7-E but the song only plays 1 chord for those bars even after doing regeneration.

You seeing the same thing?

Yes I did... I think BIAB is generating its own ending, and ignoring my entered chords...
I will edit my SGU, and uncheck "Generate 2 bar Ending for this song"... stay tuned.


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jcland, try this.
please let me know... also, PGM, why can't I erase that track I renamed to "Blank"..?

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I suggested this Strum Pattern Generator for Rapidcomposer and it was implemented in a short time.
I suggested it to PG some time back. This would be good with the new RT sample sets to create any strum pattern you like, see it has a keyswitch option for virtual instruments with a mute keyswitch.
You don't get stuck in the dialog either you can do other things.

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Excellent attempt, although it reminded me more of Framed by The Sensational Alex Harvey Band for some reason! shocked


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Excellent attempt, although it reminded me more of Framed by The Sensational Alex Harvey Band for some reason! shocked

thanks lambada, yeah, pretty much the same song... I love that live Alex Harvey performance, but Muddy did it first...

Mario, I apologize for the thread focus shift.


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Originally Posted By: bloc-head
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Mario, I apologize for the thread focus shift.


Like we say up here in the northeastern part of the USA "Don't worry about it"!

PS - I did get what I wanted in around-about way. I did one measure of that intro in BiaB, took it to my DAW, then cut and paste and shifted all four tracks. Then I went back into BiaB and did the rest of the song. I have a lot of work ahead of me to put it all together, i.e. placing those sections where I want them. I just wish I could have laid this out in entirely BiaB.


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Originally Posted By: jcland
On song Hoochie Coochie Man2.SGU

I noticed that on the ending you have A7-D7 A7-E but the song only plays 1 chord for those bars even after doing regeneration.

You seeing the same thing?


End is in 62


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Originally Posted By: jcland
On song Hoochie Coochie Man2.SGU

I noticed that on the ending you have A7-D7 A7-E but the song only plays 1 chord for those bars even after doing regeneration.

You seeing the same thing?


End is in 62

not anymore...
I changed the song file and unchecked "Generate 2 bar Ending for this song"
My new ending has a shot at bar 62, and then finally ends at bar 66
I've attached the new file below, but you'll have to download it, and change the filetype to .SGU... (BTW, this is not exactly the way my studio version ends)


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