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the original question was about aligning the start of wav file audio patterns with rigid bar lines in a DAW which the OP sees as a problem with the way he wants to create music. the identical question 3 months ago - admittedly in the context of BIAB 2021 - established that this is just how BIAB and RealTracks work. on the basis of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' this remains unchanged in 2022. there have been many suggestions as to how to work around the issue but I can't see BIAB changing the way it works now or in the future.
manipulation in the DAW is still the answer.
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Thanks Bob. A huge tip of the hat to you and the community's efforts to resolve this. Manipulation in the DAW is indeed the answer.
That said...
Recently I've been dragging the tracks I prepare in BIAB to Reaper. Just going with what works best from me, I've found two ways I am able to reproduce the misalignment shown in the OP's screen capture:
1) When dragging from the radio button in BIAB to the track in Reaper, if my Reaper play cursor is not at the very start of the track when I let go of the mouse, that track is not aligned with the others.
2) If I generate a track in BIAB, drag it to Reaper, then generate the next track at a slightly different tempo then drag that to Reaper, I'll get misaligned tracks. The tempos for each track have to be the same, and my tempo map in Reaper has to match from - start to end - how I have the tempos set for the whole song in BIAB.
Again, manipulating the tracks in the DAW is easy.
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manipulation in the DAW is still the answer. I find the nature of RealTracks makes this pretty easy. Most of the time I do a cut n' paste of RT audio in Logic, I expect the edit to sound awful – and it doesn't. This stuff is created from pieces put together super craftily, so it lends itself extremely well to being dismantled and reassembled. And if I see some waveform "sticking out" at the beginning of a phrase, well, I have an idea of how to handle that bad boy.
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...cut n' paste of RT audio in Logic, I expect the edit to sound awful – and it doesn't. Years ago I did a lot of theatre sound using reel-to-reel tape and a razor blade. I's amazing how much one can cut from the front of a starting beat and it still sounds OK. A short fade-in (cf angled razor cut) masks surprisingly well.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
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Gordon, me too about the reel to reel.
As a teen, I had multiple reel to reel recorders - Dad had an electronics store. My brothers and I recorded all of Richard Nixon's speeches. Edited them to have him admit to every crime imaginable. Even had "Hail to the Chief" playing in the background.
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As a wee sprout of 12 or so, I once took a borrowed reel tape recorder and conducted the following visionary experiment:
I recorded myself on a guitar, playing a couple of seconds of a C note, picked tremelo. Then I recorded myself playing a couple of seconds of a D note, and so on until I had all the notes of a scale.
Then I cut up the tape and spliced together a little piece of C, a little piece of D, etc.
When I played it, it sounded like a scale!!!
Too bad I never took it beyond that...
Last edited by Mark Hayes; 01/16/22 04:47 AM.
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