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Ray,
You've got the raw material here for a great song! That middle section....maybe you'd consider it the chorus, is wonderful! It made me set up and take notice! I wish I would have come up with that melodic gem! You are dialing it all in and will soon arrive at the desired destination! Thanks, Torrey
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I went with the 120122 mix. It sounds good to me. I understood the vocals perfectly. They are great lyrics, by the way. The song has a neat California surfing type vibe to it with really well written and pertinent lyrics. Good one!
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I inclined to bump the kick myself BUT I will try it lower before I do so - just in case David's on the money. When it comes to mixing advice, my money is always on floyd jane, not me. Especially when it comes to drums. 
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Latest mix has a good tight sound.
I enjoyed it a lot. Good work.
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Now that is cool ... we would write a longer review but we are getting signals from the mRNA brain chips that Apple is ready to upload a list of where we have been for the last three days. These brief forays into Rayland are always intriguing. As Janice said, early into the tune, "he is quite the wordsmith." We enjoy your videos but sometimes think that your imagery is so rich that one can readily create one in their head. If they are wired for such All the blather aside we liked the tune in all aspects and thought the arrangement was standout. And, hey, we have no issues with the polished coprolites. Always liked fossils. Fun and creative. J&B
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The whole track is very soft for a rock tune, but you said there's nothing on the master bus, so I guess that's what you get. I found myself reaching for the volume knob, but by the time I got your vocals to a level that I wanted, the hard-panned guitars were screechy and fighting for my attention. As I've said in the past, I think your vocals are fine for the kind of music you do, no reason to camouflage them.
The song is great. I really like it, even more than your last effort. Lyrics are good. This is a winner.
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The whole track is very soft for a rock tune, but you said there's nothing on the master bus, so I guess that's what you get. I found myself reaching for the volume knob, but by the time I got your vocals to a level that I wanted, the hard-panned guitars were screechy and fighting for my attention. As I've said in the past, I think your vocals are fine for the kind of music you do, no reason to camouflage them.
The song is great. I really like it, even more than your last effort. Lyrics are good. This is a winner. There ya go, BIAB has lead me, inexorably, down the path to soft rock. Thanks.
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Now that is cool ... we would write a longer review but we are getting signals from the mRNA brain chips that Apple is ready to upload a list of where we have been for the last three days. These brief forays into Rayland are always intriguing. As Janice said, early into the tune, "he is quite the wordsmith." We enjoy your videos but sometimes think that your imagery is so rich that one can readily create one in their head. If they are wired for such All the blather aside we liked the tune in all aspects and thought the arrangement was standout. And, hey, we have no issues with the polished coprolites. Always liked fossils. Fun and creative. J&B I was rather in bad in this one rhyming IN with, well, IN but it suited the narrative so I took the lazy path. Thanks J&B, I must admit I was getting annoyed with folk whining about everything, I didn't include the topics as they were really pedestrian so opted for the things most complained about in 2021. Ta for the encouragement.
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Latest mix has a good tight sound.
I enjoyed it a lot. Good work.
Thank you David, If tight is right then that's alright. Thanks for lending an ear.
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I really liked the low vocal parts - had a very engaging melody.
Good lyric - very true.
The mix sounds fine to me but I am listening to the latest version, drums sound good.
I enjoyed the song.
Peter
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Hi Ray,
I like the song and the lyrics - it gives me the britpop vibe, but I'm not used to hear vocals in that genre processed and polished this much.
You're dealing a bit with my expectations of what I'm about to hear, and then something different happens. Usually I'm able to adjust quickly, but in the case not - my brain keep on insisting a more raw and angry vocal to you arrangement and composition. And honestly the lyrics invites your vocal to act a bit more pissed off.
Someone else pointed out about the drums might need to be a bit tightended up with a bit more energy to the bass, and I would put the organ a bit more in the background and maybe cut the low end frequencies of that organ, to make more room for your rhythm section.
Maybe a compressor and limiter during mastering could do the trick, with tightening the dynamics and the whole mix.
Your guitar on the other hand is crisp and very clear, and just right....very well done.
I played it 7 times...and it get's better and better every time.
Peter
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I really liked the low vocal parts - had a very engaging melody.
Good lyric - very true.
The mix sounds fine to me but I am listening to the latest version, drums sound good.
I enjoyed the song.
Peter Thanks Peter, That low part really scraped my barrel.
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Hi Ray,
I like the song and the lyrics - it gives me the britpop vibe, but I'm not used to hear vocals in that genre processed and polished this much.
You're dealing a bit with my expectations of what I'm about to hear, and then something different happens. Usually I'm able to adjust quickly, but in the case not - my brain keep on insisting a more raw and angry vocal to you arrangement and composition. And honestly the lyrics invites your vocal to act a bit more pissed off.
Someone else pointed out about the drums might need to be a bit tightended up with a bit more energy to the bass, and I would put the organ a bit more in the background and maybe cut the low end frequencies of that organ, to make more room for your rhythm section.
Maybe a compressor and limiter during mastering could do the trick, with tightening the dynamics and the whole mix.
Your guitar on the other hand is crisp and very clear, and just right....very well done.
I played it 7 times...and it get's better and better every time.
Peter
Peter, Firstly THANKS!, 2ndly - it would be my preference to get another singer in. The polished coprolite you hear sounds as it does because it took that much to get it into a tuned and stable state. I agree about the lack of aggression in the vocal too. I tried in another song I'm doing in parallel but a non singer trying to sing aggressively doesn't come of well. had I opted for my traditional tuneless rendering it would've worked but, this is one for which I instantly had a melody and needed to demo it for the hoped for future singer. DRUMS - my 1st experience with a sub kick track - that may be the issue. (Your typo is almost one the money isn't it ...tightended"?) Its in the mix because it exists but may not be needed. Your comment and other like it are why I post incomplete tracks here...better ears than mine! The organ is mono with a high pass already but I'll experiment with it. I do want the thing roughly where it is as it balances a guitar. I'll follow up on your suggestions...
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rayc
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"Rayland." I like that J&B. You are an entertaining fellow, Ray. This is a wonderful song. I think you've "fixed" many of the "problems" others here have mentioned, because I hear no fault in this last mix. There are no borders in Rayland.
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I think your vocal works fine, and I do like the processing... sort of a disembodied effect. I really like the lyrics. I found the bass to be too much, maybe a bit overpowering. But that is the only thing I noticed.
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