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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott


Neither this song nor this version is to my taste, but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5JvkID7EtI

It was written in 1926.



The song is funny and reminds me of a Chaplin movie.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix

I don't know if there is a way to turn DEMO into local playback


I have the demo songs here:
/bb/Songs and Lessons/Artist Performance Sets/

Edit: Please note that the .MGU files are also there, so you can load these and reinterpret them. I'm not off-hand sure of the copyright rules for them.

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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
Neither this song nor this version is to my taste, but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5JvkID7EtI

It was written in 1926.


The song is funny and reminds me of a Chaplin movie.

It also isn't really a good demonstration of what was in my mind, but it did show well an interpretation almost century apart from the original.

In fairness music from 100 years ago doesn't really adapt well (IMHO). Music from the 1930s onwards does better, but much of it is too subtle to adapt well the computer-generated style. Personally I'm more into Jazz, African, Latin, Cuban, Rock, Soul, Funk, than to the computer-timed music. I've always liked my music much "looser" and to evolve and vary within itself. Modern music seems to try to do that, but very often it does it only by changing the sound pallet. To me it seems very shallow and I get bored all too easily. Obviously others will feel differently about it.


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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott

It also isn't really a good demonstration of what was in my mind, but it did show well an interpretation almost century apart from the original.

In fairness music from 100 years ago doesn't really adapt well (IMHO). Music from the 1930s onwards does better, but much of it is too subtle to adapt well the computer-generated style. Personally I'm more into Jazz, African, Latin, Cuban, Rock, Soul, Funk, than to the computer-timed music. I've always liked my music much "looser" and to evolve and vary within itself. Modern music seems to try to do that, but very often it does it only by changing the sound pallet. To me it seems very shallow and I get bored all too easily. Obviously others will feel differently about it.




Maybe it's because I don't understand the lyrics. I generally like to listen to foreign dance music. As long as the music has a strong drum that makes people want to dance. I will like it. I can interact with this kind of music. I've known since the '90s that people around me like dance music. This has continued to this day.

If possible, I hope that in the days to come, BIAB can do more dance music styles. I will definitely buy it the first time.

At present, I can only use refx NEXUS and VPS AVENGER to make dance music, and let BIAB be the support.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
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It's just a matter of hoping BIAB comes out with some modern STYLE.
With modern styles, the styles of the past can still be opened.
At present, I have all the styles of BIAB, and there are many favorites in it.
When I listened to almost all the styles of BIAB, I felt that I could do something.


Between all of the "discussions" going on in this thread this is the most important message and I totally agree with it.

Post on the wishlist what styles along with samples one would like, then hope it happens.

On a side note there are some styles I really like, some are OK, and some that I may never use but I do not advocate "don't make any more styles like these". I want BiaB to have styles from all genres of music, old and new. YMMV


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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Maybe it's just me...
But I think the elephant in the room is that first PG team needs to vigorously groom software (fix/clean/consolidate/and tune workflow), then worry about hip "styles". So if styles arrive, kids would know what to do, and would not be turned off by complexity and workflow issues that require tricky workarounds.


200% agreed.

On the other hand, while I don't have absolutely nothing against more modern or electronic music and styles, I LOVE the fact that BIAB main focus has always been jazz and other traditional "human" styles. This is, IMO, what makes BIAB such an unique and special product in a market flooded with programs, plugins and libraries designed mainly for electronic music.

I PERSONALLY like BIAB this way.




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Between all of the "discussions" going on in this thread this is the most important message and I totally agree with it.

Post on the wishlist what styles along with samples one would like, then hope it happens.

On a side note there are some styles I really like, some are OK, and some that I may never use but I do not advocate "don't make any more styles like these". I want BiaB to have styles from all genres of music, old and new. YMMV



Something just happened tonight.
I used some 150BPM to 180BPM UJAM drums
I also adjusted the song tempo to 150BPM in STUDIO ONE
Then the BIAB I used was adjusted to 75BPM
Then I entered four chords and generated some 75BPM WAV
I put these 75BPM BASS, PIANO, GUITAR into the 150BPM song
The whole music is very modern.

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Yes, you achieved a modern feel. Just what you have been looking to obtain. Great.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix



Something just happened tonight.
I used some 150BPM to 180BPM UJAM drums
I also adjusted the song tempo to 150BPM in STUDIO ONE
Then the BIAB I used was adjusted to 75BPM
Then I entered four chords and generated some 75BPM WAV
I put these 75BPM BASS, PIANO, GUITAR into the 150BPM song
The whole music is very modern.


Very interesting and very good. IMHO to achieve a real modern sound take out the piano and replace it with a synth; there are a lot of free good sounding synths available. Of course I'm talking MIDI. Slightly modifying that piano MIDI track and using a modern sounding synth would do wonders to this piece IMHO.


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Trap beats have been beaten to death...it's the 2020's version of the "Hooked On..." drum machine.


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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes

Did you notice the word "serialism"? Do you know what it refers to? Do you understand why I might mention serialism in connection with idea of progress in music?


I'm an huge fan of Arnie...I get a big kick from clowns n moons. I was 1st introduced to him/them in 76...love at 1st needle drop.

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Did you notice the word "serialism"? Do you know what it refers to? Do you understand why I might mention serialism in connection with idea of progress in music?

I'm an huge fan of Arnie...I get a big kick from clowns n moons. I was 1st introduced to him/them in 76...love at 1st needle drop.

As a youth I borrowed scratchy Arnie records from the New York Public Library, mostly to annoy my mother. I like his Sprechstimme.

Anyhoon, I had this bit of biofeedback ready, just in case anyone asked, paraphrased from Wikipedia:

Quote:
Arnold Schoenberg regarded his invention of twelve-tone music (AKA serialism) as the equivalent in music of Albert Einstein's discoveries in physics. He announced it during a walk with a friend, when he said, "I have made a discovery which will ensure the supremacy of German music for the next hundred years".

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Very interesting and very good. IMHO to achieve a real modern sound take out the piano and replace it with a synth; there are a lot of free good sounding synths available. Of course I'm talking MIDI. Slightly modifying that piano MIDI track and using a modern sounding synth would do wonders to this piece IMHO.




okay, thank you. I will try instead.
I noticed that UJAM has USYNTH coming soon in 2022.

However, there is a problem now that I have turned the total output volume into red in order to make the drum sound stand out, haha


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Did you notice the word "serialism"? Do you know what it refers to? Do you understand why I might mention serialism in connection with idea of progress in music?

I'm an huge fan of Arnie...I get a big kick from clowns n moons. I was 1st introduced to him/them in 76...love at 1st needle drop.

As a youth I borrowed scratchy Arnie records from the New York Public Library, mostly to annoy my mother. I like his Sprechstimme.

Anyhoon, I had this bit of biofeedback ready, just in case anyone asked, paraphrased from Wikipedia:

Quote:
Arnold Schoenberg regarded his invention of twelve-tone music (AKA serialism) as the equivalent in music of Albert Einstein's discoveries in physics. He announced it during a walk with a friend, when he said, "I have made a discovery which will ensure the supremacy of German music for the next hundred years".

Arnie's Third Reich built on tone poems n more. Dolfie would have put him in the Salon d' Refuse for lack of Aryan Aires but they could both dream of dominance.
AS was a dick but he did cool things in trad as well as the avant-garde.


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Arnie's Third Reich built on tone poems n more. Dolfie would have put him in the Salon d' Refuse for lack of Aryan Aires but they could both dream of dominance. AS was a dick but he did cool things in trad as well as the avant-garde.

OK, now I am seriously inspired. The "Hundred Year Reich" is collapsing as we speak, leaving a musical void for postmodernists like myself (thanks again, Janne!) to fill. I have to find an Arnie piece I can render postmodernistically with modern synths combined with classic guitar RealTracks, the latter being essential for both postmodernity and User Showcase eligibility. Resolved!

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Arnie's Third Reich built on tone poems n more. Dolfie would have put him in the Salon d' Refuse for lack of Aryan Aires but they could both dream of dominance. AS was a dick but he did cool things in trad as well as the avant-garde.

OK, now I am seriously inspired. The "Hundred Year Reich" is collapsing as we speak, leaving a musical void for postmodernists like myself (thanks again, Janne!) to fill. I have to find an Arnie piece I can render postmodernistically with modern synths combined with classic guitar RealTracks, the latter being essential for both postmodernity and User Showcase eligibility. Resolved!


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