Created a simple rhythm guitar VST usertrack (wav format)which works and sounds perfect. When adding this usertrack to a random style the quality is a little odd. Some bars are ok but the majority have this annoying glitch at the very start of the chord. Hard to describe. The ability to attach mp3 files to the post would be helpful. I did explain this in detail in an email to PG but no reply.
Created a simple rhythm guitar VST usertrack (wav format)which works and sounds perfect. When adding this usertrack to a random style the quality is a little odd. Some bars are ok but the majority have this annoying glitch at the very start of the chord. Hard to describe. The ability to attach mp3 files to the post would be helpful. I did explain this in detail in an email to PG but no reply.
Regards Jeff.
You can attach an .mp3 file using this link:
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One thing to think about is how much your UserTrack is being transposed on a given style and chord progression. This affects many things and an attack on the same chord played at 80BPM will sound a little different at 140 BPM. The audio gets sped up/down. Any chance the start point on a given section is a little too close to the beat and possibly causing the glitch? Just a thought.
The opposite is also possible, if the chord is late and slower, it won't have the same strum (attack) sound either.
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Hi, thanks for your reply. I don't see File Manager in the post options. Only this : Add this thread to my Watched Topics. Add my signature to this post.
Hi, thanks for your reply. I don't see File Manager in the post options. Only this : Add this thread to my Watched Topics. Add my signature to this post.
I think you just need to press the Reply button, not the Quick Reply:
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Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes I understand that tempos can affect the sound quality etc. The usertrack wave file did match the tempo of the style I chose. Interesting thought about offsetting the start of each chord change, I'll give that a go. I am suspecting it's the programme that's causing it as the freebie accordian usertrack has the same affect but not as noticable. Just looking for a work around before being creative with the old Fender.
Attached 2 mp3 files. acoustic.mp3 was created for the usertrack folder. acoustic2.mp3 is the rendered audio from a style using acoustic.mp3 as a usertrack.
Thanks for your replies. I was a little surprised the difference between the 2 mp3's were not noticed, apart from the mentioned glitch at 1.36 in acoustic2.mp3. The split second start of most of the chords in acoustic2.mp3 have this weird like slide effect. I feel convinced it's due to the conversion BIAB does when making the audio playable as a usertrack. I'd be interested to know if someone took my acoustic.mp3 and made their own usertrack and experienced the same problem.
Hi, just been experimenting more and it's Kontakts Strummed Acoustic that's at fault here. I created another usertrack using Musiclabs realstrat and it's perfect. So it seems I've been wasting everybody's time for which I apologise. The only annoying thing is that BIAB sometimes selects different inversions of the same chord.
Hi, thanks for the info. Did what you suggested but it still plays different variations of the same chord. ie 2 bars of E plays (not always) 1st bar ok 2nd bar as if you're playing the chord higher up the neck. I guess it's something I'll have to live with.
Yes that's what is does usually when you just have short userstrack without a lot of material it will transpose to give more variation. You should be able to make some longer userstracks if you are using MusicLabs RealGuitars. You can create a midi chord track in Biab or BBPlugin for RealGuitar to follow.
Hi, I actually use Cubase and input the chords from the usertrack templates, then export the audio for the usertrack. Am I right in thinking you can create your own SGU file for this purpose. I realise the usertrack folder can accommodate as many SGU files as you wish. I'm thinking whilst I'm at it I could add some more keys and also more complex chords.
YES do that as you are not having to play it yourself, the more material the better. I think with MusicLab also you can send the midi out to another VSTi and get different sound.
At the moment where you want a hold you can can select the bar's then go into MultiRiff (F8) then choose a RealTrack for that section so it will play a RealTrack Hold. This will work best if the UserTracks is Direct Input as well as the RealTrack Hold as you will have the same FX applied to both to blend. But if they allow UserTracks in the Multiriff you could then just have a UserTrack that is just holds, then you just change UserTracks at that bar.
You can actually create your own Holds number in D:\bb\RealTracks\Library\Holds or D:\bb\RealTracks\DirectInput\Library\Holds but then you need to set an unused RealTrack to that Hold and use it in the MultiRiff dialog. BUT we should not have to do all these 'workarounds' all the time, like hello !, just give UserTracks Holds already.
Hi, sorry can't get my head round that, but what I did and thought would work was create holds in all keys. I Used the import audio for one of the hold waves and you're given the option to send to an Audio track or Utility track. Input bar 5 re-generated and it played somewhere in between bar 4. Repeated for bar 37 2nd chorus and that didn't work. No matter what I try the audio has a mind of it's own as to when or where it plays. Do you think I should send an email to BIAB, maybe a bug. Good news is all the usertracks I've created have 4 SGU files in each covering variations in chords work perfect and no chords sounding improper, ie for example the chord of E plays correctly with no inversions like it's been played higher up the neck.
If you can post a pic of what you do would help. You can freeze the tracks in an instance of Biab set to your song bpm then drag n drop the holds track into it then set the master base tempo to the tempo of the Holds. Copy what you want then paste it into your other instance of Biab that has the UserTrack you can set it to snap or if you want the hold to play early don't use snap.
.. Good news is all the usertracks I've created have 4 SGU files in each covering variations in chords work perfect and no chords sounding improper, ie for example the chord of E plays correctly with no inversions like it's been played higher up the neck.
That's great ! if we can finally get PG to add Shots n Holds it will be awesome.
Hi, cracked it with your help but it's a bit clarty. Opened Audio Chord Wizard (Audio Edit) Dragged the hold audio wave to the bar required. Playback doesn't play in the correct position. By closing Audio Chord Wizard (Audio Edit) and re opening it plays correctly. Adding other wave files by dragging them is simple and works perfect. Changing the style key also pitch shifts the hold audio which is good,
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