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Well that's interesting.
If I got results like that I'd be discouraged too.
I have no idea how you did that. Is it the same BiaB file opened in RB?
Can I try it?
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Thanks for responding. Same file, opened in RB it gets corrupted. Realband has always done this to me. I don't know how to attach a file to this post, or I'd send you the SGU file.
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Anyone who would like to test this and see if you can duplicate what Bob saw (well, heard), here is the link to the SGU file on my Google Drive. Please do test this so we can see if anybody else gets that cacophony he appeared to. I got a nice, smooth, well done melodic backing track. GHOST RIDERS
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I just tested this and although I get the same sounds in RB as was in BiaB the balance was completely different. Since I don't use RB I don't know if this is common or not, however I did not here what Bob heard.
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I'm getting a Style not found error.
What number is this _Cream.sty ?
I may have missed a download .. guess it really doesn't matter as two others have said they don't get that mess Bob got.
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Thanks guys for looking at this. Apparently I've got a corrupted install of RB. I will uninstall/reinstall this morning. Interesting that Mario got a different balance in the mix though.
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I opened Eddie's file in BIAB and in REALBAND and did not really hear much difference at all. I have never had any issues with differences between RB and BB.
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I opened Eddie's BIAB file in REALBAND and got Drums not found error. Maybe the SGU file is corrupt and not the RealBand program. You might want to create a few quick SGU files and do further testing before doing a RealBand install.
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I ran the file through RB and with a little bit of regen on a few measures to clean up some bad chords I eednd up with a really nice backing track. I will put in on Soundcloud when I get home to my computer. A little production goes a long wY.
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I ran the file through RB and with a little bit of regen on a few measures to clean up some bad chords I eednd up with a really nice backing track. I will put in on Soundcloud when I get home to my computer. A little production goes a long wY. I will start by thanking you for offering to get the file to Bob Harvey. The song title is "Ghosts In The Rain", which was written, recorded and copyrighted by me in 2002. This file was just a rough attempt to re-record it with BIAB. It's not even a rough mix, I just wanted to have someone check it in RB to see if they got a different result. I NEVER expected you to re-mix it, 'clean up some bad chords', and "improve" it. As for putting it on Soundcloud- please don't. You don't own it. You didn't write it. Please Cease and Desist. Bob
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As for putting it on Soundcloud- please don't. Happy to comply with that request. My curiosity, and I am curious if nothing else, was mainly to see if others converted it and had the exact result since we all had the same base file to start with. That would be an exercise in seeing if Real Band, given the same SGU file to convert, would do exactly the same thing or it there are variances within their algorithms.
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RB uses a BiaB file to do this generation (which you learned in a different thread) .. I'm guessing they are pretty much doing the same thing since they use the same file.
So far nobody else has experienced much difference, which is nice
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I will start by thanking you for offering to get the file to Bob Harvey.
THE Bob Harvey?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Harvey_(musician) /what just happened, did I get dragged into this?
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Hey, if you were "up to par" you'd still be playing with Jefferson Airplane!
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What number is this _Cream.sty ? It's from Set# RT 362, (2020/12). The memo states: Memo: This style features guitar, piano, synth, bass, and drums. -Examples: Yesterday, Sound of Silence, Genre "Intensity" Score=50/100
_CREAM.STY. Cream Slow Folk Ballad
All RealTracks. Sextet. Tempo=65 (55-75)
Instruments: El.Bass, Multi-Drums, Ac.Piano, Ac.Guitar, SynthPad, Drums
RD: ShakerSlow16ths: a: Shaker b: ShakerSlow16ths :Bryan Owings
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RT908: Bass, Electric, SmoothBallad Ev16 065 , Vernon Barbary
RT1542: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopBelieve Ev16 065 , Blair Masters
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I ran the file through RB and with a little bit of regen on a few measures to clean up some bad chords I eednd up with a really nice backing track. I will put in on Soundcloud when I get home to my computer. A little production goes a long wY. I will start by thanking you for offering to get the file to Bob Harvey. The song title is "Ghosts In The Rain", which was written, recorded and copyrighted by me in 2002. This file was just a rough attempt to re-record it with BIAB. It's not even a rough mix, I just wanted to have someone check it in RB to see if they got a different result. I NEVER expected you to re-mix it, 'clean up some bad chords', and "improve" it. As for putting it on Soundcloud- please don't. You don't own it. You didn't write it. Please Cease and Desist. Bob I think he meant some bad sounding chords that BIAB/RB was playing not your composition! Probably should have told Eddie it was a copyrighted song. I have deleted the sgu after testing it. Thanks.
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I think he meant some bad sounding chords that BIAB/RB was playing not your composition! Probably should have told Eddie it was a copyrighted song. I have deleted the sgu after testing it.
Exactly ETC. There were 6 spots where the conversion from SGU to SEQ was bad and created some chords that were not what were in the SGU (and they were only on the string track). I regenerated those specific measures so the chords were what were in the original. I then adjusted levels so the level of the SEQ tracks matched the SGU file and not what the SEQ had. Specifically the strings were way too loud. Honestly I didn't pay any attention to playing technique. I actually thought it was "Ghostriders In The Sky" after the few listens I ran. I did not "rewrite" anything. The only reason I was going to put it on Soundcloud was so that others who tried to load the SGU into Real Band could compare to what my result was so I knew that Real Band created these same bad measures . I can add that I will likely never get involved with anything like this again if it is going to result in a veiled insinuation that I was stealing a song. All I did was offer to provide a means to share the original SGU, test it and provide a link to those who also wished to test it. I don't even like playing copies of popular songs. Lesson learned.
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I just got that style installed (missed it somehow) but now I can't hear your version to compare to what I get .. guess I was late to the same party twice  from memory what I got seems a lot closer to what was expected than in your sample .. though RB will never be exact (it regenerates everything)
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I just got that style installed (missed it somehow) but now I can't hear your version to compare to what I get .. guess I was late to the same party twice I don't have it any more. It was "insinuated/suggested" that I should delete it. So I ceased AND desisted. And deleted.
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I didn't mean your version Eddie, I meant Bob's original (the other Bob)
You know, for a fresh A/B comparison like you guys had a chance to do
Anyway, my result was much more the result I expected than I remember his being.
Turning thread back on target and engaging now to help him find a solution if he wants to.
RB don't act like that for the rest of us, so no wonder he has never enjoyed using it.
He might if he finds/fixes the issue.
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I can't say anymore on this thread. I have a gag order against me. I have ceased and desisted...
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Can anyone explain why BIAB has gone to the dogs???
Will I soon turn into a dog as well??
Is that a feature or a benefit??
It seems like sooner or later everyone on here turns into a dog....
It so very, very strange....
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Barman!
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RE…Realband.
So far ive not much to complain bout 2022 rb (or bb) which ive been going through in detail. my audient sound device worked off the bat in rb 2022.
So there really was no faffiing around with settings.
I think the key to using rb, at least for me is ensuring that ones sound devices is set up properly in win audio device....cos i think the installer looks in win.
My only nits with rb are wishes like.. being to slow down the acw, and being to …in stylepicker having a selected style play demo using ones chord set like bb, and possibly....
A spleeter feature (instead of having to download a 3rd party sw.) cos i have lots of songs // stereo masters originally recorded on 2 inch tape eg studer i would like to remix like heavy rockers that float my boat done with
pro session blokes/musos.
So a dog went into a pub in shropshire called the “tipsy kitten” to order a pint of kibble… Ive always wanted to own a pub called that…lol.
Unfortunately we lost a lovely doggie that we spoilt rotten…still brings tears to me.
Wife and i are huge dog lovers.
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ps i'm not much of a beer bloke...gimme a tequila sunrise
or rum n pepsi and i'm a happy alf bloke.
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< to slow down the acw >
I use to analyze songs in sections with the older version of the ACW that RB still uses. It might help you to see if it works for you.
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Muso, when I read
"Unfortunately we lost a lovely doggie that we spoilt rotten…still brings tears to me. Wife and i are huge dog lovers."
it made my heart sink. It's been 18 months since I had to put the old timer down, but (and the point of this post) it's also been 18 months minus 3 days since I got THIS guy! There are dogs that need good owners like you in every shelter everywhere. Go see if one picks you out. Today!
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RE…Realband.
So far ive not much to complain bout 2022 rb (or bb) which ive been going through in detail. my audient sound device worked off the bat in rb 2022.
So there really was no faffiing around with settings.
I think the key to using rb, at least for me is ensuring that ones sound devices is set up properly in win audio device....cos i think the installer looks in win.
My only nits with rb are wishes like.. being to slow down the acw, and being to …in stylepicker having a selected style play demo using ones chord set like bb, and possibly....
A spleeter feature (instead of having to download a 3rd party sw.) cos i have lots of songs // stereo masters originally recorded on 2 inch tape eg studer i would like to remix like heavy rockers that float my boat done with
pro session blokes/musos.
So a dog went into a pub in shropshire called the “tipsy kitten” to order a pint of kibble… Ive always wanted to own a pub called that…lol.
Unfortunately we lost a lovely doggie that we spoilt rotten…still brings tears to me.
Wife and i are huge dog lovers.
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ps i'm not much of a beer bloke...gimme a tequila sunrise
or rum n pepsi and i'm a happy alf bloke. Rum and Pepsi???? That is not a drink. Even the song is called Rum and Coca-Cola! LOL. Whatever you like is what you like am I right!
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When I ask for a Coke, and they say Pepsi, I then say please go to the bar and get me a Jack and Coke and hold the Jack. No self respecting bar is going to serve a Jack and Pepsi.
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Actually since i was a little kid ive , believe it or not, preferred pepsi.
Oh horror of horrors…lol
maybe its cos i'm an englishman.
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Actually since i was a little kid ive , believe it or not, preferred pepsi.
Oh horror of horrors…lol
maybe its cos i'm an englishman.
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You are not alone. My wife drinks Pepsi. Personally I do not drink soda pop.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
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I buy generic stuff at Dollar Tree. $1.25 for a 2.5 liter bottle. As much of it as I drink, I'd better buy generic!!
And you know, it is now 2022. Can't we start having Coke and Pepsi in the same building??? This thing about being either a Coke house or a Pepsi house is ridiculous. I know in older days it was because of kickbacks in the form of lower pricing if they agreed to keep the competition out of the building, but it's not the old days anymore.
I remember when I was a little kid, so long ago Coke came in the little 7 ounce green tinted bottles. We were out for one of those family drives and we stopped in a little diner in some place that hadn't been discovered yet. We sat down. The girl brought menus. I knew I wanted a burger before I got the menu. My father ordered something. She came back in a minute and said they were out of it. He ordered something else. She came back in a minute and said they were out of that too. And in my father's true Bob Newhart sense of humor, he said "Tell ya what. Go back to the kitchen and just bring me a plate or bowl of whatever you still have left."
Then she asked about drinks. I ordered a Coke. When she finished taking our drink orders, I watched her go to the register, take a dime out, put it in the pop machine and get my Coke. When she brought it over I said "You know I could have done THAT..."
Even at 8, I was a smart azz....
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In the eighties I met a man that worked for the Coke legal department. His job was to visit establishments that sold Pepsi. That was everything from fast food restaurants, movie houses, hotel bars and so on.
He would shop for some items and one of the items he would request was a Coke. If the server said, "I'm sorry but we offer Pepsi, is that okay?" then life was good. However, if the server said okay or brought the drink without saying anything then life was bad. He notified the legal department of the discrepancy. The establishment received a notice documenting the issue observed and a cease & desist order from Coke's Atlanta home office along with a suggestion to train their servers.
This guy told me he moved from area to area and might visit as many as 9 - 12 establishments a day.
Of course the purpose of the exercise was to prevent Coke from becoming a generic name for all colas. Pepsi has people performing the same job, they just visit places that sell Coke.
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Many years ago I once drank far too much cola one evening.
I was pretty darned high for hours.
I haven't touched any cola since that evening.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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