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Well Happy Good Friday and Easter everybody! Some good music around here this week!! Keep up the good work all! I have a few things here, because I do not want to clutter the board, so I will explain. My new song is called Heartless, and as with all my new songs I post the first draft and mix soon after writing here to get your feedback before I do a final mix. You all were a great help on Whiskey Town. I sent it to some industry pros in Nashville, and got really rave reviews, but they said what you said: Hey dude, for the love of God please tune up those vocals and the mix is way too busy! So, I remixed it. What is below is what I will now enter in a contest. The new one is hot off the press, and once I have your gut-wrenching comments, I will remix. That is my process! Heartless https://soundcloud.com/david-snyder-gigs3/heartlessWhiskey Town Remix https://www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder/song/33259035-whiskey-townHEARTLESS By David Snyder V1 If you ask my opinion God doesn't ask that much just try and make a difference in every life you touch Everybody in the world is hurt and they need a friend it's really not all that hard to understand CH You might have got drunk you might have been fried you might have been really messed up inside it doesn't mean you're going to hell but if you were heartless If you were heartless it ain't gonna go that well V2 If you ask my opinion everybody's got it rough you work and you fight and try it's never good enough The only way to win is love and then love some more I can promise you someone is damned sure keeping score CH You might have got drunk you might have been fried you might have been really messed up inside it doesn't mean you're going to hell it doesn't mean you're going to hell but if you were heartless If you were heartless it ain't gonna go that well Bridge You know God weighs the heart of every woman and man and all God expects you to do is the best you can but if you hurt the way you've been hurt it comes back on you and you know every single word of this is true CH You might have got drunk you might have been fried you might have been really messed up inside it doesn't mean you're going to hell it doesn't mean you're going to hell but if you were heartless If you were heartless it ain't gonna go that well If you ask my opinion God doesn't ask that much yeah if you ask my opinion God doesn't ask that much All music and lyrics copyright 2022 by David Snyder Day of Faith Records/ASCAP David Snyder: Production, Vocals, Instrumentation, Engineering Mastering RealTracks in style: 3933:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm AltRockPopGrittyChug Ev 080 RealTracks in song: 3501:Bass, Electric, NashvilleRadioBalladAB Ev16 075 RealTracks in song: 801:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm SouthernSnappyGritty Ev 090 (A:held) RealDrums [in style:RockBritDrivingEv16^3-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Open HiHat
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Hey there David, looks like I'm going to be the first to reply. I'm afraid I'm not much help because I'm still trying to learn this mixing stuff myself. I too like to hear the vocals stand out. As for the song in general, I like it. I think it has kind of a John Meloncamp feel to it. It's got a nice message. I'm not sure it's entirely theologically correct, but I don't think that was your focus and you weren't trying for a worship song. It's got a good sound to it though. Good luck on your upcoming contest.
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Hey Brad, Thanks! I appreciate that. Let me share a thought on the "theology." When I am reading the Bible I see Jesus was pretty quick to forgive just about anyone for anything in a jiffy. However, for those he described as "heartless"--mean, judgmental, hateful, overly religious, punishing and selfish--well, he called them the spawn of Satan. And he said they were going to fry. So, in that sense, I think the theology is not that far off man. Happy Easter!!!!
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David, Heartless is heartfelt. Theology or astrology: all ologies need to offer an apology when the miss the analogy and fight for literality. Good song, vocals need to come up a little and have the strident edge knock off a little. I like the anvil like chime of the guitar on the right in the verses it hammers home the message (sorry). Cool.
Whiskey Town...there's an oddity at 1.01 when one of the panned riffing guitars appears in the centre for a bar then moves back...it sort of made sense because there was a gap in the melody but it was a bit loud & it wasn't repeated in the same areas later leaving me to doubt it's placement. I THINK I'd pull those heavier riffing guitars back a tiny bit to let your voice have a little more space.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
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Nice one, David, very well written lyrics and lots of passion in the performance.
I think the vox could come up a little, couple of db maybe? Other than that, track sounds good.
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David,
Great song and great vocal. I really like the track selection here - gives it a driving rock sound.
Excellent!
Bob
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"If you ask my opinion God doesn't ask that much just try and make a difference in every life you touch Everybody in the world is hurt and they need a friend it's really not all that hard to understand"
Not hard to understand but sadly thousands of years have seen but sporadic relatively short lived outbreaks of it.
We agree with the aforementioned notion to up vocal ... perhaps 1-2 db.
Good one!
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Clear message represented in guaranteed David Snyder quality, definitely not a heartless song. Guitar groove works very well and the choir adds nice gospel mood, I would bring them forward a bit to give them more presence.
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This is my new favorite DS tune... Very clever lyrics & hook... Vocal delivery is terrific... Production Tops.
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Dang! Mr. Snyder!
A really well written song. LOVED it!!
Cool BAND/production. Kind of Abbey-Road-Beatles meet Blood-On-The-Tracks-Dylan. Does it get any better than that? I don't think so...
I like the mix. It has a band-in-the-studio-live-one-take sound. Perfect for the song.
One of your best (in a long line of GOOOOOOD stuff).
A big WOW for ya on this one!
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Oh yeah... "Whisky Town" now sounds awesome... Great work David...
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Hi David,
I always hear Bob Dylan when hearing you sing. I like that, although I had to get used to his vocals years ago. But yours goes very well with it! But you seem to hide them in this song. Others on the forum said it too. Bring your vocals much more upfront. Your fantastic lyrics need to be heard better!
Happy Eastern, Hans
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Wow, Dave, this is superior, man. Good write, and I love the lyrics. Outstanding production and mix. Everything ingredient stirs in the same pot and comes out so tasty. I like the addition of the OOZE.
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Good song. It's well written, arranged, produced and performed. I enjoyed my listen.
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On Heartless, thanks Ray.
On Whiskey, thanks again. I found that glitch you spotted. It was weird. It was in an automation envelope in Cakewalk but not apparent, and seemingly without cause. I had to re-do it. Strange.
But good ears man. You were right.
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I am actually hearing both songs for the very first time and I can hear some distinct differences "mix wise".
Whiskey Town Remix sounds much fuller, brighter, louder, and most importantly, it has more dynamics. I really like this one!
Can you give Heartless the same treatment, and then repost?
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Well done!
I think there's a couple of spots where the prosody is a little awkward, but the lyrics sound heartfelt.
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Cool Christian rock song David. Like it a lot!
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"...the prosody is a little awkward..." is a little like saying your chromosome is frayed. Such a word, encompassing so, so much, and so frequently used, ought to be followed with just hint or two as to which, amongst the many, aspect is/are referred to.
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Prosody in music refers how a composer sets text to a melody.
Lyrics are easier to sing if the rhythm and melody more closely match that of normal speech patterns.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosody_(music)
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Thanks Dave. I appreciate the close listen. Let me take a look at those vox!
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BD, Almost all definitions come down with #1 being something like "the study of versification". Your preferred definition is less common and less used because of it's vagueness.
"The set of speech variables, including rhythm, speed, pitch, and relative emphasis, that distinguish vocal patterns."
Wiki isn't always our friend.
My point is that clarity is essential in a critique such as yours.
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
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Thanks Bob! Really glad you enjoyed it.
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David, you have had many winners in the past but this one is your best to date.
Super vocal and lyrics
I liked your backing band very much
Loved it
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Thanks y'all. I will work more on the mix. I am glad you enjoyed it!! Maybe in the next two thousands years we will be able to solve the problem. There is still a chance!! (Though it sounds like a line from Dumb and Dumber!!)
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Thanks Mario! That is high praise indeed!
'Preciate it bro!
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David,
First off, “Heartless” is an outstanding write . . . and, second, the arrangement sounds pretty darn good too. It has a Counting Crows feel to it—even your vocal is reminiscent of Duritz. Great stuff from the first to last note!
All my best,
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Hi, David. Love the song "Heartless". Excellent write. I agree with the others: I love your songs anyway - they've got a lot of heart, and you're not afraid to be a bit gonzo. But I think this one is just a bit more memorable, and makes me want to hear it again. I also agree that the vocal is a bit hard to hear. It's not quiet, I just have to focus to hear the words. And man, you know I'm the laziest listener on this forum, and I hate to work any harder than I have to. I like this one a lot, well done!
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Great song and lyrics David! Enjoyed it! T
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Thanks Janne!
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Cool country tune David. Super vocal and lyric. Excellent backtrack. Well done
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Hey thanks Janne!
I am glad you liked it man!!
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Thank you Bloc-Head. That means a lot!
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Thanks Floyd Old buddy!! I appreciate it man!!
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I'm Liking Whiskey Town
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Dear Bloc_Head, Hans and Marty! Thanks so much!!
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Hello David great song Perfectly sung Cool mixed Very good work David Many greetings Andi ;-)
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