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In BIAB's Render to audio file page, there are two sentences.
I don't understand, I'm a little confused. What does respectively mean?

Does “Normalize individual tracks” mean the same as what the ears hear?

"individual tracks flat, dry, center" means cancel everything?


And then, I have a problem right now, which is that I'm not very good at mixing myself either. But if I don't use BIAB's official mix, my own voice will have a very thick bass and too much bass.

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why are you exporting to audio? to continue working in Studio One or to have a final audio to burn to cd or post as an mp3 online?

in BIAB all the styles are mixed to achieve what PG Music wants the style to sound like. They may turn down the piano to fit in with other instruments. they may add reverb, they may add eq to various tracks. so the mix has had a lot of work done.

so when it comes to mixing in a DAW some people prefer to start with the tracks unaltered.

To normalize audio is to change its overall volume by a fixed amount to reach a target level - so all the instruments would be exported at the same level - allowing you to make the piano for example louder or softer in your DAW the way you want not the way PG Music did.

"individual tracks flat, dry, center" means no eq reverb or panning.

that's how lots of people want the individual tracks rendered so they can work in their DAW to create the sound they want not the sound PG Music set in the style chosen.

so your settings above - if you ticked the boxes - would give you a separate file for each instrument which you can mix exactly how you want in Studio One - volume, panning, fx etc.

why aren't you recording your vocal in Studio One? I use RealBand as it's much easier for me to use than BIAB for recording. If you record your vocal in Studio One you will have complete control over eq, compression and reverb.




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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
What does respectively mean?

I'll try to explain, but language may still make that difficult.

"Respectively" means to do or apply these things to items in the same order as the items were listed.

For example, if you have three tracks "A", "B" and "C" and were advised to set the gains to 50%, 60% and 70% respectively, then you would:

Set track a to 50%
Set track B to 60%
Set track C to 70%

Note that "respectively" applies to the items, not necessarily to time, so the following would be the same:

Set track C to 70%
Set track B to 60%
Set track a to 50%


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To "Normalize" in audio has a range of subtle meanings and misunderstanding.

Basically, and as mentioned, to NORMALIZE is to raises the audio level of the selected material to a predetermined level. often that level is as close to "0" as possible. The entre selected audio is raised with no compression added. This means the difference between the loudest and quietest parts will remain the same but both of those parts ought to be louder after the process. Sometimes it will be quieter if the original level is above the predetermined level. This means noise and other issues will be louder but not relative to the rest of the treated audio.

Compressing & limiting might raise the overall volume and reduce the difference between quiet & loud parts PLUS raise the background noise.
Properly "gain staging" in your DAW is, in many ways, a better way to work with material than normalizing.

FLAT refers to NO EQ having been applied to the exported file.
This is handy as it allows EQing in the DAW to better suit a mix or to address problems.

CENTRED means that a mono sound will emanate from both speakers equally in stereo and that a stereo sound will appear with L&R balanced UNLESS the source has a deliberately different balance.

This is good because you aren't locked into the panning used in BAIB which would dictate placement in a DAW mix.If BIAB exported a left leaning file that you wanted in your right speaker you would have to manipulated that file (processing to mono etc.) to do as desired.

DRY means no reverb applied.
This is very handy as it's quite difficult to match the reverb used by BIAB in a DAW.

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Originally Posted By: rayc
To "Normalize" in audio has a range of subtle meanings and misunderstanding.

Basically, and as mentioned, to NORMALIZE is to raises the audio level of the selected material to a predetermined level. often that level is as close to "0" as possible. The entre selected audio is raised with no compression added. This means the difference between the loudest and quietest parts will remain the same but both of those parts ought to be louder after the process. Sometimes it will be quieter if the original level is above the predetermined level. This means noise and other issues will be louder but not relative to the rest of the treated audio.

Compressing & limiting might raise the overall volume and reduce the difference between quiet & loud parts PLUS raise the background noise.
Properly "gain staging" in your DAW is, in many ways, a better way to work with material than normalizing.




I personally prefer to check "Normalize individual tracks"
The advantage of this is that the volume is loud enough that I don't need to increase it any more. If I don't think it's good, let the voice be quieter. Since my mixing knowledge is limited, I prefer to use the "Normalize tracks" exported directly from BAND IN A BOX

But there is also a problem, sometimes it will be too loud.
If you don't choose, it's too small. This makes me stumped.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
But there is also a problem, sometimes it will be too loud.
If you don't choose, it's too small. This makes me stumped.

The volume for each track will be set by simply measuring the peak level and setting that to the reference level. It will not account for frequency-related effects, nor compression, nor the mean level of the signals.

Most radio stations assure us that their adverts are set at the same level as the program, but they usually sound much louder because the advertisers compress their signals to make them sound louder. It's effectively the same issue.


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THESE are what you need to understand and employ.





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THESE are what you need to understand and employ.



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