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CLIMBING DOWNHILL

A Torrey and Ron song we wrote a couple of days ago. The climbing downhill title means that sometimes when we think we are coasting in life and taking it easy, that we are in reality choosing a harder way to live in the long run. Thanks for having a listen!

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Climbing Downhill
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My sleep is gone
I'll turn the light on
I think it's hiding in the dark
I'll wait for the dawn
Then move along
Another thousand miles to get nowhere

I feel like I am climbing downhill
Going down, get back up
You know I can't stand still
Why am I still climbing downhill
Lessons learned the hard way
Didn't break my will
God will you show me the way

Can't live in the past
You know it won't last
Those broken dreams are dead and gone
I'll leave where I have been
Start over again
Lord give me live the life I've never known

Don't wanna keep on climbing downhill
Going down, get back up
Why can't I just stand still
I'm so tired from climbing downhill
I need a higher power
To come and break my will
God will you show me the way

I've been on the edge
I've chased the thrill
My wanderlust I followed
With foolish dreams unfulfilled
I see You
Lord, I see your truth
With eyes on You I'll follow
Lord lead me to the end of my road

I'm done with this climbing downhill
Going down, get back up
This time I'm standing still
I'm so tired of climbing downhill
Jesus, You're my higher power
You came and broke my will
I'm done with this climbing downhill
Going down, get back up
In You time I'm standing still
I'm done with this climbing downhill
Lessons learned the hard way
Thank God, He broke my will
Let Him show you the way
Let Him show you the way




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Torrey (& Ron),

The first thing that struck me was how good your guitar work is. Never "flashy", always serving the music/song as a whole. Nice tone, well played...

Drums and Bass sound good and "play nice together".

Strong vocal. Big, full harmonies.

Interesting progression and melody.

Good, solid mix.

Small thing - I thought that the bridge needed more to differentiate it. The melody changes, but perhaps not enough? And the overall band sound was similar to the rest. (again, a very small nit - this IS good music).

Impressive work. As Always.

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Wow, this is skillfully produced. Highly sophisticated when it comes to the chord structure.

Perfect control of all the instruments you are all playing!

You are certainly not afraid to take risks vocal-wise. I like that, and it works out very well.

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I'm not 100% sure I get the meaning of the song, but I like it. A lot.
Your voice with the guitar and the drums and bass combination work really well.

It has indeed an interesting chord progression, and I mean this in a positive way!


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Sounds really great Torrey! A rockin' praise song if there ever was one.

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Hello Torrey and Ron
The song sounds cool
Interesting melody perfectly staged
Very good work
Many greetings
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You are so good at this kinda stuff - rock praise, for want of a better description. And this is no exception. Daring and succeeding in what it sets out to do! Bravo!

And they say MY chord progressions are daring and "out there", haha ... you've schooled us all here :-)

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Torrey...The music you write (with Ron in this instance) is so unique and by now (to me) so recognizable...I think it's your chord arrangements which are so stylistic and artistic along with your vocals and harmonies that maybe reminiscent of others yet totally your own, that sets your songs apart from the rest of us... you remind me of NOBODY-else smile as usual I love this... I love the style, love the performance in all of it's aspects, love the compo and arrangement and I love the message and/or testimonial (I've ran downhill a lot in my life)...you are a "tool" man...your(His) song speaks to me!

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Torrey, very nice professional sounding production. Once again, I was very impressed by it. Personally, just as a style thing, I like some of your other melodies better, but like I said - this production is magnificent. I also really like the writing. So clever, correct, and right to the point. They really spoke to me. I also liked the idea of how you introduced that last verse, totally unexpected. Thanks for posting.

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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Torrey (& Ron),

The first thing that struck me was how good your guitar work is. Never "flashy", always serving the music/song as a whole. Nice tone, well played...

Drums and Bass sound good and "play nice together".

Strong vocal. Big, full harmonies.

Interesting progression and melody.

Good, solid mix.

Small thing - I thought that the bridge needed more to differentiate it. The melody changes, but perhaps not enough? And the overall band sound was similar to the rest. (again, a very small nit - this IS good music).

Impressive work. As Always.

fj


Thanks Floyd! I always appreciate your input! The bridge was something I went back and forth on, but decided to leave as is for now unless a bolt of inspiration strikes! T




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Torrey,
another classic Bliss piece...Ron's an excellent foil as well.
GREAT lead work throughout.


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Torrey & Ron,
Yes, this is unmistakably in the Torrey style; polished, sophisticated and impeccably accompanied pop with a strong message.
The guitarwork is, as ever, remarkably good and your vocals take some risks with the melody... which work!
I think the long ending chorus is excellent.
Great collaboration!

Robert

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Originally Posted By: RnAM
Wow, this is skillfully produced. Highly sophisticated when it comes to the chord structure.

Perfect control of all the instruments you are all playing!

You are certainly not afraid to take risks vocal-wise. I like that, and it works out very well.

Rob

Thanks for listening and commenting Rob! I appreciate it!




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Originally Posted By: B.D.Thomas
I'm not 100% sure I get the meaning of the song, but I like it. A lot.
Your voice with the guitar and the drums and bass combination work really well.

It has indeed an interesting chord progression, and I mean this in a positive way!

Thanks for having a listen! The climbing downhill title means that sometimes when we think we are coasting in life and taking it easy, that we are in reality choosing a harder way to live in the long run.




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Torrey, Love this one. The chord changes are unpredictable = refreshingly new (at least to me).

Great use of BIAB! Also love the surprise "echo" phrase about three-quarters through. Keep it up man!

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Torrey,

Excellent song and outstanding vocal! The production value on this (and all your other songs) is pro all the way.

Much enjoyed.

Bob

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Originally Posted By: David Snyder

Sounds really great Torrey! A rockin' praise song if there ever was one.


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This one really rocks in a unique way, excellent blend of different pop/rock styles, chording is especially interesting. Creative like The Beatles in their prime. Powerful vocals (amazing harmonies), good instrumentation and even the grungy guitar solo support the message of learning the hard way.

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Originally Posted By: PROJECT M
Hello Torrey and Ron
The song sounds cool
Interesting melody perfectly staged
Very good work
Many greetings
Andi ;-)


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Haha. The title reminded of my youth. Funny I'm getting so old that's all I remember anymore. hehe I used to race friend up steps. They could run, but I had to climb on all fours. Never lost. Coming down that way was way different. Enough about me, huh?

You are such a master of this craft, Torrey. This is another piece of the master, a masterpiece. I'd say your vocals are the best, your guitar playing is top-notch, your writing skills are unmatched, you always fashion the best lyrics, then add the best musicians you find in the mirror. When all that is done, you master the mix in such a pleasing way. I believe even in my youth you could've beaten down the steps if I slid the banister and you crawled on all fours.


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Torrey this is a fantastic Christian rocker and it should be played on Christian radio right now. Its a great message that should be heard loud and clear!

Great vocal and outstanding lyrics.

Your guitar work is icing on the cake.

The other instruments you played are fantastic also.

Super work with the bass and drums, i.e. super tight.

Loved it


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Your vocal and instrumental performances always have a lot of power and passion.

This is yet another fine write by you and Mr. Helm. GREAT title.

As Janneson said, “even the grungy guitar solo supports the message of learning the hard way.”

Janice said her first remembrance of “gospel rock” was Godspell during her high school days and that many of their parents were surprised by their performance of some of those songs in their First Baptist Church Youth Choir. smile

And as always in an excellent manner there is a Beatles hint here and there.

Enjoyed it!

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Originally Posted By: musician17
You are so good at this kinda stuff - rock praise, for want of a better description. And this is no exception. Daring and succeeding in what it sets out to do! Bravo!

And they say MY chord progressions are daring and "out there", haha ... you've schooled us all here :-)


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Excellent as usual, Torrey! Great arrangement, love the bit that starts around 2:15 or so.

Guitar as usual is right on the money, all the instrumentation actually.

Nice!

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Originally Posted By: firesong
Torrey...The music you write (with Ron in this instance) is so unique and by now (to me) so recognizable...I think it's your chord arrangements which are so stylistic and artistic along with your vocals and harmonies that maybe reminiscent of others yet totally your own, that sets your songs apart from the rest of us... you remind me of NOBODY-else smile as usual I love this... I love the style, love the performance in all of it's aspects, love the compo and arrangement and I love the message and/or testimonial (I've ran downhill a lot in my life)...you are a "tool" man...your(His) song speaks to me!


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Originally Posted By: Brad Williams
Torrey, very nice professional sounding production. Once again, I was very impressed by it. Personally, just as a style thing, I like some of your other melodies better, but like I said - this production is magnificent. I also really like the writing. So clever, correct, and right to the point. They really spoke to me. I also liked the idea of how you introduced that last verse, totally unexpected. Thanks for posting.


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Originally Posted By: rayc
Torrey,
another classic Bliss piece...Ron's an excellent foil as well.
GREAT lead work throughout.


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Originally Posted By: Robertkc
Torrey & Ron,
Yes, this is unmistakably in the Torrey style; polished, sophisticated and impeccably accompanied pop with a strong message.
The guitarwork is, as ever, remarkably good and your vocals take some risks with the melody... which work!
I think the long ending chorus is excellent.
Great collaboration!

Robert


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Originally Posted By: Dewey_MI
Torrey, Love this one. The chord changes are unpredictable = refreshingly new (at least to me).

Great use of BIAB! Also love the surprise "echo" phrase about three-quarters through. Keep it up man!

Dewey


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Torrey,

Excellent song and outstanding vocal! The production value on this (and all your other songs) is pro all the way.

Much enjoyed.

Bob


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Originally Posted By: jannesan
This one really rocks in a unique way, excellent blend of different pop/rock styles, chording is especially interesting. Creative like The Beatles in their prime. Powerful vocals (amazing harmonies), good instrumentation and even the grungy guitar solo support the message of learning the hard way.

Janne


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This has that late 60s/early 70s sound that I love.

I like the unpredictable but satisfying musical direction you took me with this song. A very Bliss-ful listening experience.

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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Haha. The title reminded of my youth. Funny I'm getting so old that's all I remember anymore. hehe I used to race friend up steps. They could run, but I had to climb on all fours. Never lost. Coming down that way was way different. Enough about me, huh?

You are such a master of this craft, Torrey. This is another piece of the master, a masterpiece. I'd say your vocals are the best, your guitar playing is top-notch, your writing skills are unmatched, you always fashion the best lyrics, then add the best musicians you find in the mirror. When all that is done, you master the mix in such a pleasing way. I believe even in my youth you could've beaten down the steps if I slid the banister and you crawled on all fours.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Torrey this is a fantastic Christian rocker and it should be played on Christian radio right now. Its a great message that should be heard loud and clear!

Great vocal and outstanding lyrics.

Your guitar work is icing on the cake.

The other instruments you played are fantastic also.

Super work with the bass and drums, i.e. super tight.

Loved it


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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Your vocal and instrumental performances always have a lot of power and passion.

This is yet another fine write by you and Mr. Helm. GREAT title.

As Janneson said, “even the grungy guitar solo supports the message of learning the hard way.”

Janice said her first remembrance of “gospel rock” was Godspell during her high school days and that many of their parents were surprised by their performance of some of those songs in their First Baptist Church Youth Choir. smile

And as always in an excellent manner there is a Beatles hint here and there.

Enjoyed it!

J&B


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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Excellent as usual, Torrey! Great arrangement, love the bit that starts around 2:15 or so.

Guitar as usual is right on the money, all the instrumentation actually.

Nice!


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Originally Posted By: Ezekiel's Storm
This has that late 60s/early 70s sound that I love.

I like the unpredictable but satisfying musical direction you took me with this song. A very Bliss-ful listening experience.


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Great mix, Torrey.
Great title too. I wish I'd thought of it.

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What a cool intro Torrey. Excellent song. Loved the chord progressions. Guitar was awesome. Super vocal and lyric. Excellent mix and production. Well done..


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Originally Posted By: vicarn
Great mix, Torrey.
Great title too. I wish I'd thought of it.

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Originally Posted By: Scott C
What a cool intro Torrey. Excellent song. Loved the chord progressions. Guitar was awesome. Super vocal and lyric. Excellent mix and production. Well done..


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Torrey & Ron,
Ace tune. Complex composition, but listens very smoothly. Powerful vocals and excellent playing!
Very mature, polished mix / production. Enjoyed it! I wish they would play music like this on a local radio.
Thank you for sharing.

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Hi Torrey Bliss,

Very pleasant your compo. Well done.I enjoyed.

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Great work from you as always, your productions are always on another level. Got that Steely Dan sound, I know I've said that many times. Nice lyrical idea: climbing downhill.


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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Torrey & Ron,
Ace tune. Complex composition, but listens very smoothly. Powerful vocals and excellent playing!
Very mature, polished mix / production. Enjoyed it! I wish they would play music like this on a local radio.
Thank you for sharing.

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Hi Torrey Bliss,

Very pleasant your compo. Well done.I enjoyed.

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Originally Posted By: TuneMonger
Great work from you as always, your productions are always on another level. Got that Steely Dan sound, I know I've said that many times. Nice lyrical idea: climbing downhill.


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Hello Torrey ...

Thought I'd left a comment on this a couple of days ago. Guess not!

You and Ron put a great song together. Your multi-talents sparkle on this. Love that megaphone line you slipped in - cool!

So may good things to like. It would take quite some time to list all of them. This is really special.

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Originally Posted By: Al-David
Hello Torrey ...

Thought I'd left a comment on this a couple of days ago. Guess not!

You and Ron put a great song together. Your multi-talents sparkle on this. Love that megaphone line you slipped in - cool!

So may good things to like. It would take quite some time to list all of them. This is really special.

Alan


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Very cool song!!! I also hear the older influence in it......melodies were so creative back then and yours always are!! Great vocal harmonies!! I also feel that I'm going downhill but not necessarily climbing. smile. Love this!!!! Take care. Greg

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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Very cool song!!! I also hear the older influence in it......melodies were so creative back then and yours always are!! Great vocal harmonies!! I also feel that I'm going downhill but not necessarily climbing. smile. Love this!!!! Take care. Greg


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For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.

Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.

Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!

Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.

Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!

With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!

Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

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