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Henry, you are a great ambassador to PG Music.

I definitely appreciate your excellent contributions. Thanks again. Fantastic effort.


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Enjoyed your latest tutorial Mr. Henry. Very thorough and concise.

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Wow! This is great Henry. Just what I needed, just when I needed it.

Just so I understand, you're using Cakewalk, could I also use RealBand or Reaper and follow the same steps?

Thanks so much!

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Good video but he lost me at the start.
Where did the MIDI file come from? I know from his hard drive but how was it created?

What are the steps in creating a MIDI file from a popular song like Too Late To Turn Back Now?


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Originally Posted By: Bass Thumper
Where did the MIDI file come from?

A lot are available on the 'Net. Try searching "midi files" or "free midi files".
The quality is quite variable, of course.

search "midi files" "Too Late To Turn Back Now"
gets hits for that specific song.


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There are two instances of the MIDI file brought into Mr. Henry's BIAB project.

The first instance, the key signature, tempo, a midi Style and all 16 channels are opened onto the Melody Track. The MIDI file needs to be opened onto the Melody Track in order to populate the Chord Chart.

A second instance of the MIDI file is dragged into the Chord Chart and each MIDI channel of the MIDI file is loaded into a discreet Utility Track that will load that channels MIDI data and patches.

This can be demonstrated by dragging a MIDI file onto the Chord Chart and either muting the Melody Track and the other six Legacy Tracks or Muting the Style. You can even mute the Style and the Melody Track that contains the 16 Channels. Either way, the MIDI data on the various Utility Tracks will play and sound exactly the same as if the Melody Track is played.

So, as Mr. Henry demonstrated, the RealStyle and RealTracks play the Chord Sheet in conjunction with the MIDI data of the Utility Tracks.

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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Henry's presentation is deceptively simple because this workflow is not actually doing what many would think it is. BIAB is not playing any of the midi from the midi file! What is happening here is BIAB is interpretting the midi file and coverting it to the Chord chart. Then he inserts several RTs into the slots and they play over the chords. All the original midi is muted. The only need for the midi file is to avoid the typing.

Kind of like a magic trick. Pretty simple once you know how to do it. But a good trick non the less.


First of all I would never write a comment like this. It's just flat out disrespectful. Also it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about !! There's no deception or trickery here. Have you ever tried it? Do you really think that a "RealTrack" is going to play that string line? That's why I don't post a lot in the forum. I find it pointless because all the "experts" like you who have no clue.

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Wow! This is great Henry. Just what I needed, just when I needed it.

Just so I understand, you're using Cakewalk, could I also use RealBand or Reaper and follow the same steps?

Thanks so much!

Jeff


I don't use RealBand or Reaper but I would guess that if the DAW integration tool works it would be the same process.

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Henry, I enjoy your videos. Thank you for the time and effort you put into each one.

And, btw, I use the technique you demo'ed. Only difference is I use Studio One.

...Deb

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FWIW, I don't believe MusicStudent was accusing you of deception or trickery, or was intending to be disrespectful. I think it was more a recognition of how you have understood and explained a 'trick' within BiaB. I do agree that he misunderstood a part of the explanation, though.

I have always found your videos useful and helpful, and often commend them to people as an alternative view to PGM's own videos. In a great many ways, I prefer yours to theirs.


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Thanks Henry! Always enjoyed your videos and have learned much from them. I like your style of presentation and the results are always enjoyable.

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Originally Posted By: Henry Clarke

First of all I would never write a comment like this.


Apparently you missunderstood my comment. No disrespect intended. Likely I choose my words unclearly.


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So how do the real tracks follow the midi tracks? I get that we can now split the midi tracks onto 16 channels as per some of the older midi players. Am I right in thinking that the real tracks follow the chord charts that Band in a Box creates from the midi tracks? I was kind of blown away by the midi tracks adjusting to the new BIAB style. Thanks regardless.


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I was kind of blown away by the midi tracks adjusting to the new BIAB style.


Its magic. Thank you Lambada, you confirmed my earlier comment. Now some expert can come along and explain this point to us all. smirk


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First of all I would never write a comment like this.


Apparently you missunderstood my comment. No disrespect intended. Likely I choose my words unclearly.


If you were really straight up you would acknowledge that you're wrong. The video shows MIDI tracks and RealTracks playing simultaneously. Also I have more than one song on my channel where I use both RealTracks and MIDI tracks.

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Henry, can you explain to Lamdaba how the midi tracks adjust to the new BIAB style.

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Also I have more than one song on my channel where I use both RealTracks and MIDI tracks.


I do the same thing, all the time. For years.... - This just confirms you misunderstood my comment.


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Henry, I enjoy your videos. Thank you for the time and effort you put into each one.

And, btw, I use the technique you demo'ed. Only difference is I use Studio One.

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Thanks, Glad it works for you.

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FWIW, I don't believe MusicStudent was accusing you of deception or trickery, or was intending to be disrespectful. I think it was more a recognition of how you have understood and explained a 'trick' within BiaB. I do agree that he misunderstood a part of the explanation, though.

I have always found your videos useful and helpful, and often commend them to people as an alternative view to PGM's own videos. In a great many ways, I prefer yours to theirs.


Thanks, I'm glad the videos are helpful.

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<< So how do the real tracks follow the midi tracks? >>
They don't.

<< Am I right in thinking that the real tracks follow the chord charts that Band in a Box creates from the midi tracks? >>
Yes. That's correct.


<< I was kind of blown away by the midi tracks adjusting to the new BIAB style. >>

They don't adjust to the new BIAB style.


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