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Uh oh… another one of those long rambling threads where you want to discuss the cheapest things out there but end up with you not buying anything. Ok, I'll play I will not buy an interface that doesn't meet the following minimum requirements: 1) Fast USB 2 192/24 released October 2019 or later. If that minimum is not met, latency will be excessive. Cirrus is not the only vendor of those chips anymore but probably 95% of them since the 8 in/out, 4 mic pres, 2 DIs, 2 Line Ins and 2 headphone amps version costs about $8 ea min 1000 and the audio quality is incredible. Those not meeting that minimum are using even less expensive chips—no thank you. 2) I insist on a Mix/Blend control for the input/output. Is it necessary? No, actually—you can do this balancing act in your DAW but it takes time. Once you've tracked an overdub session with it and turned a knob to adjust the balance for the Talent, you are spoiled and don't ever want to do without again. Scarlett and UA Volt units don't have this. Many from Mackie, MOTU M4, M-Audio, Steinberg, Presonus and plenty of others do. All of them are inexpensive and a couple even have built in effects. Though I have a half dozen and an 8 I/O M•Audio AIR 192|14 sits on my desk for much of my work, this one goes in the briefcase when I'm on the road and meets all my basic requirements: Mackie ProFx6v3 Nothing on paper will tell you the best mic for the lowest cost for your needs.You stand a better chance with studio monitors but the really inexpensive ones cannot give you a mix you can trust. This is one area where it's a good idea to see who's using what. Thousands of home studios are using the JBL 305P, 306P and 308P MkII with the 310 subwoofer — I can make an ok mix on these if I have to (and sometimes I do). I need to hear that bottom octave so a sub is critical to my room. Since my studio monitors are no longer made, what I use isn't important but if they go south, I'd probably replace them with bookshelf monitors from Neumann ($ouch!) so I hope they keep on truckin' a long, long time. My 2¢ I'm done with this thread so don't bother replying if you think I will read it.
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Mike.
i would like to go on record as follows.
1.. i am free to post on these forums as you are. us both being pg users.
2.. my understanding of the forum rules are a 'friendly collegial cordial environment' in makeing posts, and exchanging ideas.
3.. ive used the most expensive big studio gear and most inexpensive budget gear over many years, and enjoyed the joy of doing songs at both levels. thus i see no reason why budget gear cant be discussed and views exchanged in a cordial fashion cos many people dont have a big budget for creating songs.if the forum rules said 'no discussions of budget gear' i would of course adhere to that. i just feel not many people would be interested if i posted about gear way outside their price range like 3k mics, 2k interfaces, and 2k mic preamps.
4.. the pg moderators can always step in and tell me if i'm doing something wrong.and i would adhere of course.
i sincerely hope the above is seen as fair and reasonable by all concerned.
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1, intel overclock to 8 ghz. things finally are getting interesting cos been boring for sooo long. Well, yes, people are free to overclock as much as they want. That's not the direction I take, and I am yet to be bored  Consistency and reliability is the direction I usually take. Yes, overclocking might deliver that too, but it's a matter of choice. As a software programmer developing in Real-Time computer systems for most of my working career, straying outside of the boundaries usually comes up with some 'gotchas'... sooner or later...
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1, intel overclock to 8 ghz. things finally are getting interesting cos been boring for sooo long. Well, yes, people are free to overclock as much as they want. That's not the direction I take, and I am yet to be bored Consistency and reliability is the direction I usually take. Yes, overclocking might deliver that too, but it's a matter of choice. As a software programmer developing in Real-Time computer systems for most of my working career, straying outside of the boundaries usually comes up with some 'gotchas'... sooner or later... Aye. For sure! I started my career in aeronautics where absolutely everything is run well under it's declared limits, never mind beyond them. I always try to keep things decently below them. That way, if nothing else, I worry less. And that goes for both hardware and software. I still didn't always get things right first time, so I can tell you that quite a few semiconductor components burn with a rather pretty bright-blue flame. I can also say that a finger on the at-risk components give a good early warning if things are getting hot. Ouch! ... But at least the power was then usually off well before it reached flame stage. My record power-on to ouch was less than three seconds.
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It's called "overclocking" for a reason after all.
Working within spec and with systems set up properly offers reliability, consistency and efficiency.
Yet we have a bloke who can't/won't list the RT used in his latest song pushing the envelope with pipe firmly clenched between teeth.
There's nothing "Geeky" in this thread.
Overclocking is something some "gamers" do then have to upgrade rather than repair as a result of and other will try it as a "task"/skill development before moving on.
Follow the suggestion, (yes I know "anathema" for you), of the code & program writers who've responded.
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe amps have the tubes biased well beyond the optimal settings...as a result almost all of those amps burn through tubes that cause further damage. Why? It's a very cheap and easy way to get an amp to overdrive and sound HOT...the fact that the amp kills expensive tubes and requires serious modification to last more than an half dozen years means Fender don't respect the buyers of those amps at all.
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RE: Overclocking. i dont want to get into a big debate into such as its been debated often over many years on various forums including ones related to music production like gearspace where tons of studios big and small hang out…cept to note.... i dont overclock myself but ive seen cases in the past where studio rigs are overclocked if a studio might be doing sessions that demand very high resource usage on a pc. obviously trying to get buffers and lag down. as it looks like now more powerful processors are coming out , i suspect the need to overclock by some users will be lessened as time goes on for big sessions. as far as i understand, even some custom builders of music produaction pc's for studios will overclock if requested by a customer. heres an interesting article from one such builder…notice the stability comment down a ways. https://pcaudiolabs.com/overclock-pro-audio-pc/ps some might find this overclocking info usefull. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/performance-maximizer.htmland from amd.. https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-masterps i would suggest a qualified pc tech do any overclock. if a user wishes that. and always err on the side of caution. ymmv happiness. om
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