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There are a few cosmetic changes that could be done, but the fundamental purpose for which BIAB was created should not be changed.



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1. Make the thing scalable. That's the first thing everybody asks for (unless it's happened since 2009).

2. For me, I want to be able to customize the menus so I don't have to see the 50%-plus of the commands I never use. This could be done (a) in the Options dialog, where I check/uncheck menu items I want displayed, or (b) via a "Personalized Menu" feature such as in Windows where it 'learns' your habits and displays only the most frequently used entries.

I assume no pics are needed for either of the above.

Perhaps others will chime in. I do know that one or more users has submitted a simulated screen shot of what they were talking about.

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I use the little triangles at the far right to delete the buttons I don't need. Later, Ray


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1. Make the thing scalable. That's the first thing everybody asks for (unless it's happened since 2009).

2. For me, I want to be able to customize the menus so I don't have to see the 50%-plus of the commands I never use.

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1. happened in 2010. Upgrade your copy if you want it. Just drag the window to size and leave it. It re-opens at the same size and position next time, on a secondary monitor if you like. Godsend, as far as it goes.

2. has been available for quite a few more years and is yours already in ver. 2009. Do as Ray suggests to hide unwanted goofy icons. Another godsend.


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I only have 3 or 4 icons on the screen. The rest hide. And I scale the thing (except so far lead sheets), so that they lyrics are on the right 1/4 and the rest to the left.


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I use the little triangles at the far right to delete the buttons I don't need. Later, Ray




I've been using BIAB for 10 years now and never new I could could that. Thanks!

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I use BIAB (really only since version 2009) for composition and then sonar 8.5 studio for recording and DAW work. I should learn how to use RB, because I bet it would improve my work flow -- but I just haven't got around to it yet.

The current GUI doesn't really bother me, but if they were going to dump one thing it would be their adherence to that dang "chorus" thing. I would love to lay out a song in intro-V-C-V-C-Br-Ch-outro structure without "expanding". But that complaint is not enough for me to not use the program -- I know that would need a major overhaul! I guess I could put the Br-Ch-outro part in a "TAG" ending, I might have to try that.

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I know the 'chorus' point has been raised enough times that many older users' first response is "oh not this again"

... which tells me two things


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I apologize for bringing that "chorus" thing up again. It is just so "foreign' from the way I construct songs.

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It looks like what you want to do has nothing to do with the standard <Verse-Chorus>. Just writing out a-b-a-b-c etc isn't expanding. You will have written one "chorus".


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The term chorus has many definitions. It could be a full cycle through a song’s form, a part after a verse, a group of people singing, etc as explained here:

http://musiced.about.com/od/lessonsandtips/f/chorus.htm

http://www.yourdictionary.com/chorus

http://jazz.about.com/od/glossaryofjazzterms/g/Chorus.htm

PGMusic uses the full cycle through a song’s form definition while many of us use to the verse/chorus definition.

Although it would be nice to put verse/chorus/bridge/etc markers in BiaB I have no problem exporting the song to Sonar and putting those markers there.

Just my thoughts.


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Can anyone provide a Picture of how they rearranged the screen to work better for them? I'd love to see a screenshot of BIAB customized. I've never changed anything. I just use it as is. (lazy)
It might give us some ideas how to use BIAB better without changing it.
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Can anyone provide a Picture of how they rearranged the screen to work better for them?






The chordsheet is scaled to allow other windows onscreen. You can see the two surviving toolbars are floated out on top. The keyboards are gone.

Note that the toolbar region is not scalable. So the "harmony" windows get cut off, but I don't care.

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How did you get your screen shot into your post? Thanks, Ray


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Stash the screen shot on the web at "photobucket.com", or some similar file host. Make the picture light and small.

The host will provide you your picture's new URL. Paste it into your post using the forum's "image" function located down the page under "Instant UBB Code".

That's all. When somebody reads the thread, the software loads the picture from wherever you put it on the web.



I hope this question means you're about to post one. I'd like to see how you do these things, Ray. Others, too, of course.


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Thanks allis,
Thanks for taking the time.
That is a very efficient layout. That was what I meant. A few ideas will help. Better use of what we have.
Yes some other people's pictures would be good. It will help us think of better ways to work with BIAB.
Thanks again, Wayne

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Thanks, allis. Here's a shot of my BIAB, just to see if I did it right.

http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae225/raymb1/HeresThatRainyDay.png

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The chordsheet is scaled to allow other windows onscreen. You can see the two surviving toolbars are floated out on top. The keyboards are gone.




In the interim, if you don't want to see the keyboard on the screen, just select from the top menu "Opt, Preferences", then select the "Display" button and uncheck the box that says "Show on-screen piano".


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No trouble at all. I agree with you. Glad you're interested in doing something practical. It does get a little tiresome reading the same endless GUI complaints of those who don't try to do anything to help themselves. There's considerable flexibility available, right down to the typefaces you like.

Naturally, we may prefer different things. The onscreen keyboards that bug me could be absolutely essential to somebody learning to read organ music, and entirely worthless again to a bluegrass player who couldn't care less about a keyboard.

Good luck. Will you post a shot when you get one?

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