This is much more an "it would be nice" than a wish per se, however...
I have some SGUs that I use when doing practice exercises, where typically I have four bar lines going through a chord progression over which I practice "in all keys". Mostly they're a consistent sequence, e.g. Dm7|G7|CMaj7|CMaj7 Cm7|F7|BbMaj7|BbMaj7 Bbm7..... with a shift at the DMaj7 to Ebm7 to do the other keys.
It occurs to me that a means to step like that would be quite nice, though making the SGUs is hardly difficult.
However ... a means to randomly select the key at each repeat of an SGU, would broaden the excercise into one where the key for each cycle is a surprise, which would stop one dropping into a habit of automatically changing to the next key in the known sequence.
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I haven’t looked at this in years, maybe a decade or more, but BIAB does have a utility to do something Ike this. I’ll look for it when I get to my computer. I thought you had some control over how it modulates.
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I know it will increase the tempo. I had a feeling that I'd seen mention of changing key, but I couldn't if/where it was.
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Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. Kawai MP6, Korg M50, Ui24R, Saffire Pro 40. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11; Win8.1: Scarletts BIAB2022 UltraPAK, Reaper, a bunch of stuff.
When I tried this out yesterday on my Linux+Wine setup with a MIDI style it worked OK apart from a very clunky transition to the new key (it sounds like drops about the last half bar and adds a beat or so before the next new bar; I think perhaps it may be trying to include a turnaround?). It's only for practice, so I think I can live with that OK, though the loss of rhythm is rather perturbing, particularly at the point where I'm also trying to read the first bar of the new key.
I've just tried to use it on my Win8.1 notepad PC at my piano, (perhaps foolishly as it's a slow PC) with a RealTrack style and it hardly works at all. It'll play the first time through, with that same clunky transition, but then it plays one chord in the new key and goes silent for the song, before doing another clunk, another chord and going silent again. I think it finally plays again the last time through the song. It seemed quite a way from random, too, mostly not playing the same four or five keys.
I changed to a MIDI style on the notepad and it's OK-ish again (though still a clunky change, of course).
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Thanks for the feedback, Gordon. I've never used it, and it's possible that it has slipped into 'disrepair' and has not been updated for some time. The feature was introduced a very long time ago.
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Thanks for the feedback, Gordon. I've never used it, and it's possible that it has slipped into 'disrepair' and has not been updated for some time. The feature was introduced a very long time ago.
Maybe. I've been using it for a couple of hours and I have learned to follow the timing .. I'm honestly not sure if the rhythm is correct at the cycle-change/turnaround and maybe it's just the clunky that was throwing me, but doesn't now.
It's randomising seems weak as it'll sometimes cycle through maybe three keys before moving on, but that's a modest irritation ... the idea is that I have to adapt immediately to each new key, whatever key it chooses, and I do. Mission accomplished.
It's OK. It could do with some polish.
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I've been using it for a couple of hours and I have learned to follow the timing .. I'm honestly not sure if the rhythm is correct at the cycle-change/turnaround and maybe it's just the clunky that was throwing me, but doesn't now.
I do now think it's just the odd sound stop during the final bar that's throwing my timing. I think there's a tiny pause (on my old notepad), but it's generally pretty OK now I'm more used to it.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. Kawai MP6, Korg M50, Ui24R, Saffire Pro 40. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11; Win8.1: Scarletts BIAB2022 UltraPAK, Reaper, a bunch of stuff.
When I tried this out yesterday on my Linux+Wine setup with a MIDI style it worked OK apart from a very clunky transition to the new key (it sounds like drops about the last half bar and adds a beat or so before the next new bar; I think perhaps it may be trying to include a turnaround?). It's only for practice, so I think I can live with that OK, though the loss of rhythm is rather perturbing, particularly at the point where I'm also trying to read the first bar of the new key.
This is a known bug that has been reported before:
Hmm ... from 2016, last bumped in 2021. And also in other threads. It seems mostly not too bad in MIDI. For me it was quite unusable in RTs. Patience is a virtue.
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Yes it was. It was implied, though not stated, in the post I'd linked. I hadn't looked for the earlier one, though I see it was from you.
The timing of the change definitely varies ... sometimes the next bar comes in on time, sometimes BiaB plays a drum-filled bit (1/2 bar?) and then comes in. Frustrating!
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