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Hi all,
This is a song I did as demo of a latin rock style for BIAB I built after read Clive post 'Latin Rock style like Carlos Santana' . It is a 6 instruments style and use RealTracks, RealDrums and one MIDI instruments which was the MIDI style base for make my final customized style.
Lot of fun on making this, Latin Cowboy is a latin rock song in the mood of Oye Como Va "Santana' cover. Aside of guitar and sax, there is a fiddle soloing from RealTracks too, bluegrass meet latin... yeeha mamacita!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> . Again the possibilities and versatility of Band in a Box with RT/RD/RB are demonstrated.
I think this latin rock BIAB style also can work with likes of Santana's Black Magic Woman, Flor de Luna, etc, with moderate/fast tempos between 120-140 bpm but not for more slower songs like Samba Pa Ti.

I use L_MAMBO6.STY (Latin-Mambo 6 ala Perez) MIDI style disk #25 as starpoint ( I use only the MIDI Brass section for style) then add the following RT:

Bass, Acoustic, Rumba Ev 110 - #916
Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm ChaCha Ev 110 - #918
Organ, B3, Background Blues Roadhouse Ev 120 - #674
Guitar (optional), Electric, Rhythm NashvillePopClean Ev 120 (A: held) #851
Drums RD: Salsa Cha Cha Latin Jazz - #13
Additional drums: Nashville even 8 #06 (not included in the style) : I added and test it in RealBand, then DROP to Cubase, since original Santana band included percussion and drums, a must for that solid and modern latin rock character. This is a perfect item for my BIAB wish list: an additional Drum instrument slot, ideal for drum and percussion combinations!
Brass (MIDI): L_MAMBO6.STY (Latin-Mambo 6 ala Perez) MIDI style disk #25


Solos:
Sax, Tenor, Motown Rock Ev 120 #403 (not included in the style)
Fiddle, Soloist Bluegrass Ev 130 #434 (not included in the style) --- Note: All fiddle parts/soloing in the song is from RT, except 1:50 to 2:23 which is a VSTi violin played by me with MIDI guitar.
Guitar: myself ( not included in the style....just in my soul) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> (guitar is a Godin xtSA)


Composed and arranged with Band-in-a-Box 2010, Real Band, RealTracks - RealDrums
mixing, guitar recording and additional edition: Steinberg Cubase.

Latin Cowboy: http://www.carlosarellano.com/music/01.SONGS/1.Latin%20Cowboy.mp3

Thanks for listening

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very impressive mate.
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Hi Carlos
Very impressive indeed - magical guitar playing! Thanks for sharing (got new ideas out of it).
What did you use for the horn section? Loops or VSTi? Sounds good.
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Wonderful stuff! You must have had a lot of fun putting it together.
Well done!


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Solos:
Sax, Tenor, Motown Rock Ev 120 #403 (not included in the style)
Fiddle, Soloist Bluegrass Ev 130 #434 (not included in the style) --- Note: All fiddle parts/soloing in the song is from RT, except 1:50 to 2:23 which is a VSTi violin played by me with MIDI guitar.
Guitar: myself ( not included in the style....just in my soul) (guitar is a Godin xtSA)





EXCELLENT performance!


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Wow! Very inspiring. Thanks for posting this with the detailed description of how it came about.

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AWESOME!


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Hi Carlos,
That is a great track. Who would have thought that a mixture of so many different musical styles (Latin, Bluegrass, Roadhouse Blues, Motown) would work so brilliantly together. I am particular impressed by the speed at which you put the finished track together - seems like only a few days since you mentioned you might have a crack at something in this style!

Can you tell me what VSTI's you used for the Midi parts within Cubase? The Midi drums in particular sounded really good.

Best regards, Aubrey


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Hi Carlos,

Very impressive. Thanks for sharing.

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Hi Carlos
Very impressive indeed - magical guitar playing! Thanks for sharing (got new ideas out of it).
What did you use for the horn section? Loops or VSTi? Sounds good.
Daniel




Thanks Daniel, I listen your music, you are a clean and tasteful guitar player!. Good compositions and use of resources. About brass part, I forget to mention it is the only MIDI instrument in my custom style, I took Brass part from L_MAMBO6.STY (Latin-Mambo 6 ala Perez) MIDI style disk #25, the start point style for built the new one. After DROP the brass MIDI part to Cubase, I set it to two VSTi : First Call Horns (trumpet section) and Hypersonic 2 trumpet, both blended at 75% and 25% respectively. Here EQ also play a role with final brass sounds.


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Hi Carlos,
That is a great track. Who would have thought that a mixture of so many different musical styles (Latin, Bluegrass, Roadhouse Blues, Motown) would work so brilliantly together. I am particular impressed by the speed at which you put the finished track together - seems like only a few days since you mentioned you might have a crack at something in this style!

Can you tell me what VSTI's you used for the Midi parts within Cubase? The Midi drums in particular sounded really good.

Best regards, Aubrey




Thanks Aubrey, I think of the inmense world of styles present in BIAB from RealTracks and even MIDI ones as an fertile ground for researching and experimentation. Of course a minimal of musical common sense will help. About the fast I go done with this song, I devoted two sessions, first night I worked in BIAB style customization, finished it I put the style to play in BIAB, grabbed my guitar and play some latin rock typical progressions and finally transcribe one I like. At start of song the melody bring up as courtesy of courtesy of SaxTenor, Motown Rock RT, after some tries I got the more melodical solo phrases and use it in a answer/response play between guitar and sax, not exactly a melody in the word full sense, as you can see the track have a strong trend to improvisation. After done it I import the BIAB song in RealBand in order to add and test some RD drum part that play well with the ChachaJazz Latin percusion RD, think of it as José Chepito Areas and Michael Shrieve Santana Abraxas drum/percussion team. Also I work in the fiddle soloing and guitar part in RealBand, finally I DROP tracks from BIAB and RB to Cubase. Second session was next night (yesterday), putting all together and working in the rest: guitar recording, some violin with MIDI guitar parts added, MIDI brass VSTi choice, editions of RealTracks like some little reorder of original BIAB song structure, breaks, then EQ, efx, mixing etc. Total hours: 8, aprox. 4 hours by session.

There are not MIDI drums in this tracks, they are RTs both asI mention before. The only MIDI part from BIAB is brass, I use First Call Horns (trumpet section) and Hypersonic 2 trumpet VSTi's. Additional fiddle is from Hypersonic 2. Thanks again.

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Carlos, you are the Man!! I love the concept of this, it's sort of like Charlie Daniels meets Santana and of course your playing is excellent.

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Carlos, you are an inspiration. With the right tools (BIAB) and the right talent (you've got plenty of that) this song soars. PLEASE post more to inspire us to greater hights.
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Carlos this is fabulous. I'm totally in awe of your creativity and musicianship. I love the percussion, the sound of the brass is spectacular, and your guitar playing is full of soul and finesse. I don't think the midi fiddle sounds quite real even as well as it's played but everything else is so great who cares. Very inspiring.

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Hi, Carlos -

I just got a chance to listen to this and was just blown away. Absolutely fantastic!


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Carlos, you are "The Man", I always love your stuff. What a talent you have been given. Thanks for sharing it.


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Thanks everyone! it is my total pleasure on sharing this for you all. I am not a veteran with 1000+ replies ..yet but music is the way I know for giving back a little for all the great I receive from you all and PGMusic team in this incredible warm forum. Indeed, you are who means an inspiration for me. Gracias amigos!

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Carlos this is fabulous. I'm totally in awe of your creativity and musicianship. I love the percussion, the sound of the brass is spectacular, and your guitar playing is full of soul and finesse. I don't think the midi fiddle sounds quite real even as well as it's played but everything else is so great who cares. Very inspiring.




Wow ! Thanks Josie. Yes I agree with you, that MIDI fiddle is not so real, maybe my fault anyway, I before has recorded more convincing MIDI violin parts based in excelent sampler VSTi there are out there, but I was so excited about to hurry the song making and test the style that I end using a Hypersonic 2 not so quality fiddle patch, a bit in the average GM side without not more articulations possibilities. The difference is even more notorious compared to song intro and when in the end of MIDI fiddle part on middle verse immediately follow the incredible RealTrack soloist bluegrass (by the great Andy Leftwich)...a true challenge that I did not dare to assume with a MIDI guitar at hands!

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I forgot to mention, if someone is interested in the style or song (BIAB) files from this song , drop me a pm. please.

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Well Carlos, vale! Most everything has been said above, but I want to add, in MHO, Santana himself, other than the reputation don't have much on you hermano! I'm in awe, what can I tell you.

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