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FARTHER FROM THE TREEThis is a deeply personal song that I have held off on sharing for a while but have decided to go ahead with because I know many folks can relate! Although it may sound like there's a tinge of bitterness on my part, it's not the case, only regret! Some of the lyrics are drawn from my own experiences and some from other people I have known that have had parent/child relationship issues. Almost the entire chorus "dropped" into my mind one day while traveling to visit my friend Ron Helm for a writing session! Ron loved the idea, and we wrote it quickly. He contributed some key lines in the song. It's a much different type of song for me but it had to be done this way! BTW, we've had some interest in this tune and I believe it will be recorded by someone. Thanks for having a listen! T BIAB - 2364 Electro Flutes - Panned to the left at low volume mainly in chorus sections and verse 2 Keyboards and Drums - Toontrack products Me - Vocals, bass, guitars, piano fills and synths Farther From The Tree Words and music by Torrey Bliss and Ron Helm ©2022 Glass Gate Music BMI I am my father's son That can be said of me Yes, the apple doesn't fall Very far from the tree It's sad we never found Common ground for our beliefs It seems that we would always just Agree to disagree You were right, and yes, you were so wrong Oh, and so was I now I must break this chain That's bound me for so long Time marches on through fields of broken dreams I know you felt, I'm not the man that I should be Now, things that you would say and do I see them coming out of me Sometimes, I wish this apple could have rolled A little farther from the tree Sons and the Fathers Mothers and your daughters Has anyone but me ever felt this way I know humility's the answer Grudges are a cancer That never let the dark clouds fade away Time marches on past fields of broken dreams At times, I felt you weren't the man that I thought you should be Things that you would say and do I see them coming out of me Sometimes, I wish this apple could have rolled A little farther from the tree Still, I have hope that some sunny day That God will restore what we've thrown away Until then, in my heart, I'll be Believing somehow that you still love me Time marches on through fields of broken dreams At times, we knew we weren't the men who we were meant to be The very things that you would say and do Now they're coming out of me Sometimes, I wish this apple could have rolled A little farther from the tree
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Torrey & Ron,
A powerful write.
"Things that you would say and do
I see them coming out of me
Sometimes, I wish this apple could have rolled
A little farther from the tree "
Killer lines.
A really nice arrangement/production.
Good vocal.
Nice mix.
Good luck with it!
fj
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The intro had set me up to expect a classic Eagles sound but you played me well.
The lyric/narrative is as on point as Old Man or Cat's in the Cradle though the verse/bridge before the final chorus throws a curve ball of sorts. I know that's your wheel house but I'd consider writing a slight alternative to that bit for a more secular performer.
Everything about the song is fabulous TBness.
You're a wonder.
Cheers
rayc
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Torrey...this is such a poignant and beautiful piece of music...the lyrics are so touching and terribly true for so many people..it could only have been written by a retrospective heart and an honest soul...I commend you for that...I love the keyboard work...the gentle ballad flow...your vocals are some of your best...I agree wholeheartedly with Floyd about the production/arrangement value and with Ray that "everything about the song is fabulous"!
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Before I listened to it, I read the lyrics and damn, they are really good and strong. Even without the music, this would be a pretty good poem.
And the song doesn't disappoint, I'm not surprised it's getting interest. So far my favorite of your songs.
I'd love to see this song take off...
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You're right, Torrey. This is different than your "usual." One thing it has in common is how good good good it is. Love the title and the song idea. Cool piano, and all you do in there makes it all so much better. Very tasteful and a very satisfying mix. Outstanding heartfelt lyrics. Life isn't for regrets --only improvement, and, man, you have that in so many ways.
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Torrey, this is great in every way.
I love how the chorus moves from "I", to "you", then to "we".
Masterful and deep.
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Mornin T....
This is a well written, well performed, heartfelt song.
I happily echo all other comments....they stole my thunder on this one.
Hope all is well....back to it.
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Hi Torrey
Very touching song
Has a very nice melody
And your vocals work out the thoughtful theme very nicely
Is of course a partly sad song for all to whom the lyrics apply.
In any case very successful song
Thank you for letting us hear it
And good luck that the song becomes even more famous
Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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Excellent hook and lyric, Torrey.
The only sugg I have is to take the piano down a couple of db here and there where it overpowers the vocal.
Great stuff.
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Torrey & Ron,
A powerful write.
"Things that you would say and do
I see them coming out of me
Sometimes, I wish this apple could have rolled
A little farther from the tree "
Killer lines.
A really nice arrangement/production.
Good vocal.
Nice mix.
Good luck with it!
fj Thanks so much Floyd! You seal of approval on a tune is encouraging! T
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Man! This is right up there with your best, Torrey, and that's saying something!
Just an excellent write from you and Ron, and the performance is your usual high standard.
Great to read that it's generating some interest, I hope it gets recorded and becomes a hit, how cool would that be?
Very much enjoyed, and good luck!
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Not what I expected, but I love it! You don't usually sing in the lower register, because my first thought about the vocal was "Who is this guy? He sounds really good! Time marches on through fields of broken dreamsGreat write, emotional vocal, excellent production. You and Ron knocked it out of the park! 
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> I know humility's the answer
> Grudges are a cancer
> That never let the dark clouds fade away
The lines above are my favorite. Please keep us updated on this song's progress. This is very exciting! Good luck!
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this is very very good.
with great vocal emotion.
i absolutely love the subtle little sonic touches in
the song.
only one word for this...seriously SUPERB.
happiness.
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Hi, Torrey !
One of your absolute best without doubt !
I just love your voice and the tune is
so good for you and your golden voice !
Cheers
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Hey Torrey,
This is a great classic song.
Wonderful in every way
Great job!
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Great song! But you're certainly not the only one who asks these questions. A famous Dutch singer-songwriter sings this song: Papa = Daddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wxVTIB6qE4This is the translation of the lyrics: Papa I have the same eyes And I'm getting your features around my mouth I used to be short tempered You used to be short tempered But we have found our peace And we sit beside each other And we do not say a lot For everything you do I have the same ritual Daddy, I'm more and more like you I have the same hands And I'm getting your wrinkles in my skin You have your ideas I have my ideas And we wander in our thoughts But we always come back home The truth you used to look for And which you've never found I'm searching for her as well And in vain For as long as I'll live Because Daddy, I'm more and more like you In former days you could be strict And God, I've hated you at times But your words They're coming from my lips And I speak now The way you used to speak before I have a godless faith And I love each and every woman And perhaps I have become What you didn't want me to be at all But Daddy, I'm more and more like you You believe in God So you will go to heaven And I believe in nothing So we'll meet each other After death, after death Nevermore But Daddy, I love you more and more I have a godless faith And I love each and every woman And perhaps I have become What you didn't want me to be at all But Daddy, I'm more and more like you Daddy, I love you more and more Daddy, I'm more and more like you
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Torrey, l love all your songs. This one is especially good. The lyrics and melody are fantastic. Great production and playing. Good luck with pitching it. It’s hard for me to imagine anyone singing this any better than you. Very moving, Tom
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The intro had set me up to expect a classic Eagles sound but you played me well.
The lyric/narrative is as on point as Old Man or Cat's in the Cradle though the verse/bridge before the final chorus throws a curve ball of sorts. I know that's your wheel house but I'd consider writing a slight alternative to that bit for a more secular performer.
Everything about the song is fabulous TBness.
You're a wonder. Thanks Ray! Your comments are always appreciated by me! I may at some point look at alternate versions of this one, but it may be a while! Thanks, T
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Torrey
Superb production in all respects.
Top notch song, well sung, and arranged. Good luck with it.
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Torrey,
It doesn’t get any better than this . . . truly, this song NAILS every aspect of what makes a tune great. It’s a master class in songwriting and production . . . and without a doubt one of the best tunes I’ve heard on this forum. I’ve never been more impressed. Absolutely brilliant!
My very humble regards,
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Torrey...this is such a poignant and beautiful piece of music...the lyrics are so touching and terribly true for so many people..it could only have been written by a retrospective heart and an honest soul...I commend you for that...I love the keyboard work...the gentle ballad flow...your vocals are some of your best...I agree wholeheartedly with Floyd about the production/arrangement value and with Ray that "everything about the song is fabulous"! Thanks Dan for those encouraging words! T
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Torrey, I really can't say much more than what others have said here, but I just had to say something. Like everyone, I think your production is pure perfection, and so it's impossible to separate one aspect from another in order to comment. I really hope someone records this one and it gets a lot of play. Yes, it would be good for you, but I believe it would be so good for so many others.
It is this song in itself that sets this apart from others. The words and emotions poured into this song are so relatable and experienced by so many who still feel "has anyone but me ever felt this way?" This song needs to be heard. Thanks for sharing and putting a lot of yourself into this. I know a guy who once wrote a song recorded by Kenny Rogers. Apparently Rogers almost didn't record it because he was intimated by the demo - he didn't think he could sing it any better. I could see where you could potentially face the same problem with this one.
You write a lot of songs that touch a lot of people. I believe this to be among your best, Torrey.
Congratulations,
Brad
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Before I listened to it, I read the lyrics and damn, they are really good and strong. Even without the music, this would be a pretty good poem.
And the song doesn't disappoint, I'm not surprised it's getting interest. So far my favorite of your songs.
I'd love to see this song take off... Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment! T
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Fantastic, this sounded like an instant classic from the first sounds of the intro, as already stated one of the best tunes on this forum.
Lyrically very touching and one of those rare cases when it feels how the writer means every single word. The superb vocals interpret the message with strong passion.
This is how a perfect and original chord progression should be, keeping interest throughout the song and reflecting strong emotions.
The production and the mix cannot be better than this, all you need is there.
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This one hit home. Fortunately my parents and I patched things up many years prior to God taking them.
Everything is absolutely professional in this one.
Your best to date IMHO.
Loved it.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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You're right, Torrey. This is different than your "usual." One thing it has in common is how good good good it is. Love the title and the song idea. Cool piano, and all you do in there makes it all so much better. Very tasteful and a very satisfying mix. Outstanding heartfelt lyrics. Life isn't for regrets --only improvement, and, man, you have that in so many ways. Thanks Marty! Your comments are always so encouraging! T
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Torrey, this is great in every way.
I love how the chorus moves from "I", to "you", then to "we".
Masterful and deep. Thanks so much for the kind words! T
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Excellent lyric and performances!
We also particularly liked the progression in the choruses from “you” to “I” to “we” and there are too many favorite lines to quote.
Your vocal is stellar and the piano is perfect for this write.
Good luck with the song. It will be hard for anyone to top your version!
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Mornin T....
This is a well written, well performed, heartfelt song.
I happily echo all other comments....they stole my thunder on this one.
Hope all is well....back to it. Thanks Wayne! I appreciate all that! T
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Hi Torrey
Very touching song
Has a very nice melody
And your vocals work out the thoughtful theme very nicely
Is of course a partly sad song for all to whom the lyrics apply.
In any case very successful song
Thank you for letting us hear it
And good luck that the song becomes even more famous
Many greetings
Andi ;-) Thanks Andi! I appreciate it! T
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Top-notch lyric writing.
I really like the piano sound. It give the song its emotional base.
Effective change in dynamics around 2:45.
Great song.
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Very delicate emotional song Torrey. A beautiful piece of music. Awesome vocal. Backtrack was excellent as well...
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What a beautiful moving song. Thank you for sharing.
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Thanks Vic for taking time to listen and comment! T
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Man! This is right up there with your best, Torrey, and that's saying something!
Just an excellent write from you and Ron, and the performance is your usual high standard.
Great to read that it's generating some interest, I hope it gets recorded and becomes a hit, how cool would that be?
Very much enjoyed, and good luck! Thanks Dave! Your comments mean a lot to me! T
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Not what I expected, but I love it! You don't usually sing in the lower register, because my first thought about the vocal was "Who is this guy? He sounds really good! Time marches on through fields of broken dreamsGreat write, emotional vocal, excellent production. You and Ron knocked it out of the park! Thanks, David, for the kind words! T
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Hi Torrey,
I can imagine you had some doubt sharing this song. But I'm glad you finally did!
A beautiful song and lyrics with that great metaphor about the apple and the tree.
In a way it is also very recognizable.
You sing it very well, with the passion this song deserves. But that is always your quality.
I enjoyed it a lot, Torrey!
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Man! This is right up there with your best, Torrey, and that's saying something!
Just an excellent write from you and Ron, and the performance is your usual high standard.
Great to read that it's generating some interest, I hope it gets recorded and becomes a hit, how cool would that be?
Very much enjoyed, and good luck! Thanks Dave airways qqpreciate your comments! T
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You are such a talent musician I love your music. Thanks for sharing.
Music is an expression that is a universal language, Never criticize anybody to harshly. They need time to grow but when they do, they do. Always be kind in what you say and do because the man upstairs is watching.
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Thanks trapper456 for the encouraging comments! I appreciate them! TB
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As I listen to the song some words come to mind – deep, weighty, profound, soulful. It really cuts to the heart (most likely because it comes from the heart). Superb from go to whoa.
My music may not set the world on fire but if it causes a glow in just one person's heart, it has all been worthwhile 
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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