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Hello,
I am trying M_EZLIPS.STY
EDIT: M_EZLISS.STY (sorry)

I noticed that the bass as well as the piano do not play.

Not even manually from Mixer->Pianos.

In the Mixer->Patches:
Bass is green: 1388:Bass, Acoustic, Jazz...
Piano is cyan/blue: 2241:Piano, Rhythm EZListening...

Green being Realtrack, I do not understand why it is not playing. It shows notes in the notation.

For the cyan/blue it is a Midi supertrack.

When opening the song, I get a message:

"Could not load Hi-Q Patch. The Band-in-a-Box instruments might not be installed."

Please help me to get all this working.

Version is 2020(734) Ultra


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Originally Posted By: berntd
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I am trying M_EZLIPS.STY
I noticed that the bass as well as the piano do not play.

Berntd,

I check all my Styles (10,300+) and cannot find 'M_EZLIPS'.

Can you check the name and the source of that style?


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Ah, OK, I think it must be 'M_EZLISP'. I'll check and come back....


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Hi,

Can't seem to find the style M_EZLIPS.STY you mentioned and I have 2023 UltraPak, has it been misspelt ?
Have you tried a Stylepicker rebuild?

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OK, I listened to the Demo song (after regenerating). There is an issue at the end of the first chorus (32 bars) where the song gets 'stuck' on bar 32 before starting the 2nd chorus.

The song is in C, but immediately the song gets to bar 32, the whole song changes to another key. I've seen it go from C to F and C to A.

When it does this it generates silence for a couple of bars while it 'catches up'

It's an issue. I'm not sure why (above my pay grade - which is zero). I'll report it to the developers. It's not an <F5> setting (a key change is not specified) and shouldn't get 'stuck' anyway.

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Originally Posted By: Brian Cadoret

Hi,

Can't seem to find the style M_EZLIPS.STY you mentioned and I have 2023 UltraPak, has it been misspelt ?
Have you tried a Stylepicker rebuild?

Brian

Found it. It's M_ZLISP.Sty


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
Originally Posted By: Brian Cadoret

Hi,

Can't seem to find the style M_EZLIPS.STY you mentioned and I have 2023 UltraPak, has it been misspelt ?
Have you tried a Stylepicker rebuild?

Brian

Found it. It's M_ZLISP.Sty


Thanks for your kind help!

No, It is M_EZLISP.Sty -- It got you as well then :-) I have edited the OP.

I am not worried about the demo.

I just created a simple song with a few chords and it will not play the instruments I mentioned.
And as mentioned, I cannot get the instruments to sound even when using the Mixer->Pianos

Even when re-selecting the Bass Realtrack, it will not play.
If I use any (I tried one) other style and select this Realtrack, it does play.

And what's up with the Message I got about Hi-Q patch?




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Here are the style patches.

The top 2 do not play.

But, If I also load the top one into the next free slot, it DOES play.

If I add the piano (Midi Supertrack) into the next free slot, I get prompted as shown.

But then it has the message again that the Hi-Q path could not be found.


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Message after opening the song with this style and also after trying to re-add the Piano patch again
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Pianon will still not play
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I've pointed the developers to this thread, so hopefully they will see the overall issues that are being encountered.


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
I've pointed the developers to this thread, so hopefully they will see the overall issues that are being encountered.


Right, thank you.

But while we are here, do I need to install something like Sforzando or why is the patch not loaded?




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Perhaps start a new thread that mentions the Sforzando issue?

(it may get better attention?)


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Yes, I think you need to find the file "Hi-Q Instruments for Sforzando" in your downloads, or on the hard drive in PGMusic\Installers, and install it


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Originally Posted By: Andrew - PG Music
Yes, I think you need to find the file "Hi-Q Instruments for Sforzando" in your downloads, or on the hard drive in PGMusic\Installers, and install it


Hi Andrew,
Thanks, I found it and installed it. The piano now works in the above style but the bass still does not.

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I tried this style and all works as expected.


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I tried this style and all works as expected.

Dan, if you load the demo song for the style: "M_EZLISP Demo (MIDI SuperTrack - EZ Listening Piano Quartet).SGU"
and play it, does the key change at the end of the first chorus and it seems to hesitate while it generates?


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All sounds fine at my end.


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
All sounds fine at my end.


That is encouraging.

To diagnose further, could you please try my style files?
Style files for test

I simply create a new song and just add 1 or 2 chords. Then test and the problem is already there = No Bass - as in silence when muting the other instruments

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Originally Posted By: berntd
To diagnose further, could you please try my style files?
Style files for test

I simply create a new song and just add 1 or 2 chords. Then test and the problem is already there = No Bass - as in silence when muting the other instruments


I tested with 4 bar diddy. All tracks played well. The Bass played fine upon muting all others. Only unusual observation from this simple test is that the song did not stop when expected. It continued to play to end of 8 bars. Have you adjusted the endings?


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Update:

If I load the style and replace the 1388 Bass with 1386 Bass, the bass will also NOT play.

If I load sister style: M_EZPN85.sty, (slow version) and replace its 1386 Bass with the 1388 (the non-playing one), it plays fine.

The problem thus seems style related and more specifically to the actual track since the bass can play if I load it into another track in the same style (see earlier test)

It seems as if the first track is invisibly disabled in this style.


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Originally Posted By: berntd

It seems as if the first track is invisibly disabled in this style.


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But that is not what is happening here?

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Quote:
It seems as if the first track is invisibly disabled in this style.

Berntd, I suggest that you select Options > Return To Factory Settings as a starting point.

I had difficulties recently especially with the style and it was resolved with the factory settings. I still don't understand why, and I haven't had to restore factory settings for many years.

Try it and see if that makes a difference.


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I just did the factory rest (ALL settings) thing and it is exactly the same.

Also, my computer is not old. I was purchased new for BIAB in mid 2020.


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I works fine here as well.
I just downloaded the attached style, put in 4 chords generated and played and muted of the other instruments in order.
Bass plays fine. Piano plays fine.
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Right,

I have transferred the style to my second older computer which is running an earlier install 2020 PRO.

The result is IDENTICAL. the bass does not play for this style.

So the problem is 100% reproducible over here and it is not installation or machine specific.


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Bass RT 1388 is an older file. See what date and file size you have and compare it to mine which is working well... Maybe you have a corrupt file? or a version which was fixed at some time?


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Thanks. Are .wma file not demo files?
I thought the .sty and .stx filez are the style files?

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I can't find any thing else on my computer for this specific bass except for these two demo file... If you can find other files send the info and I will look for them.


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Ohh, wait, you meant the actual 1338:BAss Realtrack.

Very sorry, I thought you meant the style files.

I will have a look at that now.

But, that 1338:Bass plays fine when I load it into any other style.


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The actual Realtrack for 1338:Bass is located in:

\bb\RealTracks\Bass, Acoustic, Jazz Sw 140

There are 56 files in this folder all dated to 2008.
Selecting them all, results in 58.4MB being selected.

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OK, lets compare the Style Files. Here are mine. You will see there are new versions just recently along with the old versions in my "historic" collection. Do you have the new versions??

Or hold it, perhaps I have two versions due to how I had to backup all the old files since I switched machines. So the two dates may be related to that and not actually two different versions. Sorry if I confuse the situration, but I am just trying to help... crazy


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Thank you again, I greatly appreciate your help.
I am not sure how you generated that file list view in your attachment.

I can also see the 2 style files you likely downloaded from my link.

I cannot duplicate the view layout you show but here is my equivalent: I did a search for the M_EZLISP.

My files are all from 2013. Your demo file is larger than mine but the style file sizes are the same.

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Berntd,

Everything plays fine for me to.

Seeing that this is happening with two bass Realtracks on the Bass track, have you checked...

1) that the volume of the mixer is set to 90 for the Bass track

2) That the Bass track is enabled (Right click on the track | select Track Settings | double check that "enabled" is selected).

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I have since contacted the PGmusic folks and after some to an fro, they claim it is reproducible in the 2020 version but not the 2023 version.

I guess that explains why you here could not see it as you all seem to be running 2023.
What the root cause could be, remains a mystery.

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Sorry to hear that. Doesn't appear to give you much options other than to not use that style, or to upgrade? crazy


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Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

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