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#750563 - 01/23/23 09:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Style not playing certain instruments
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Hello,
I am trying M_EZLIPS.STY
EDIT: M_EZLISS.STY (sorry)

I noticed that the bass as well as the piano do not play.

Not even manually from Mixer->Pianos.

In the Mixer->Patches:
Bass is green: 1388:Bass, Acoustic, Jazz...
Piano is cyan/blue: 2241:Piano, Rhythm EZListening...

Green being Realtrack, I do not understand why it is not playing. It shows notes in the notation.

For the cyan/blue it is a Midi supertrack.

When opening the song, I get a message:

"Could not load Hi-Q Patch. The Band-in-a-Box instruments might not be installed."

Please help me to get all this working.

Version is 2020(734) Ultra



Edited by berntd (01/24/23 01:19 AM)
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#750565 - 01/24/23 12:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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Originally Posted By: berntd
Hello,
I am trying M_EZLIPS.STY
I noticed that the bass as well as the piano do not play.

Berntd,

I check all my Styles (10,300+) and cannot find 'M_EZLIPS'.

Can you check the name and the source of that style?
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#750566 - 01/24/23 12:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: AudioTrack]
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Ah, OK, I think it must be 'M_EZLISP'. I'll check and come back....
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#750567 - 01/24/23 12:59 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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Hi,

Can't seem to find the style M_EZLIPS.STY you mentioned and I have 2023 UltraPak, has it been misspelt ?
Have you tried a Stylepicker rebuild?

Brian
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#750568 - 01/24/23 01:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: AudioTrack]
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OK, I listened to the Demo song (after regenerating). There is an issue at the end of the first chorus (32 bars) where the song gets 'stuck' on bar 32 before starting the 2nd chorus.

The song is in C, but immediately the song gets to bar 32, the whole song changes to another key. I've seen it go from C to F and C to A.

When it does this it generates silence for a couple of bars while it 'catches up'

It's an issue. I'm not sure why (above my pay grade - which is zero). I'll report it to the developers. It's not an <F5> setting (a key change is not specified) and shouldn't get 'stuck' anyway.


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#750569 - 01/24/23 01:15 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: Brian Cadoret]
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Originally Posted By: Brian Cadoret

Hi,

Can't seem to find the style M_EZLIPS.STY you mentioned and I have 2023 UltraPak, has it been misspelt ?
Have you tried a Stylepicker rebuild?

Brian

Found it. It's M_ZLISP.Sty
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#750572 - 01/24/23 01:25 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: AudioTrack]
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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
Originally Posted By: Brian Cadoret

Hi,

Can't seem to find the style M_EZLIPS.STY you mentioned and I have 2023 UltraPak, has it been misspelt ?
Have you tried a Stylepicker rebuild?

Brian

Found it. It's M_ZLISP.Sty


Thanks for your kind help!

No, It is M_EZLISP.Sty -- It got you as well then :-) I have edited the OP.

I am not worried about the demo.

I just created a simple song with a few chords and it will not play the instruments I mentioned.
And as mentioned, I cannot get the instruments to sound even when using the Mixer->Pianos

Even when re-selecting the Bass Realtrack, it will not play.
If I use any (I tried one) other style and select this Realtrack, it does play.

And what's up with the Message I got about Hi-Q patch?





Edited by berntd (01/24/23 01:31 AM)
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#750575 - 01/24/23 01:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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Here are the style patches.

The top 2 do not play.

But, If I also load the top one into the next free slot, it DOES play.

If I add the piano (Midi Supertrack) into the next free slot, I get prompted as shown.

But then it has the message again that the Hi-Q path could not be found.



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#750576 - 01/24/23 02:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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I've pointed the developers to this thread, so hopefully they will see the overall issues that are being encountered.
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#750578 - 01/24/23 02:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: AudioTrack]
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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
I've pointed the developers to this thread, so hopefully they will see the overall issues that are being encountered.


Right, thank you.

But while we are here, do I need to install something like Sforzando or why is the patch not loaded?





Edited by berntd (01/24/23 02:53 AM)
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#750586 - 01/24/23 04:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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Perhaps start a new thread that mentions the Sforzando issue?

(it may get better attention?)
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#750668 - 01/24/23 12:51 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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Yes, I think you need to find the file "Hi-Q Instruments for Sforzando" in your downloads, or on the hard drive in PGMusic\Installers, and install it
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#750727 - 01/25/23 03:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: Andrew - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Andrew - PG Music
Yes, I think you need to find the file "Hi-Q Instruments for Sforzando" in your downloads, or on the hard drive in PGMusic\Installers, and install it


Hi Andrew,
Thanks, I found it and installed it. The piano now works in the above style but the bass still does not.

Best regards
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#750758 - 01/25/23 07:40 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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I tried this style and all works as expected.
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#750789 - 01/25/23 11:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: MusicStudent]
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I tried this style and all works as expected.

Dan, if you load the demo song for the style: "M_EZLISP Demo (MIDI SuperTrack - EZ Listening Piano Quartet).SGU"
and play it, does the key change at the end of the first chorus and it seems to hesitate while it generates?
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#750804 - 01/25/23 12:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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All sounds fine at my end.
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#750837 - 01/25/23 03:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: MusicStudent]
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
All sounds fine at my end.


That is encouraging.

To diagnose further, could you please try my style files?
Style files for test

I simply create a new song and just add 1 or 2 chords. Then test and the problem is already there = No Bass - as in silence when muting the other instruments


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#750963 - 01/26/23 11:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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Originally Posted By: berntd
To diagnose further, could you please try my style files?
Style files for test

I simply create a new song and just add 1 or 2 chords. Then test and the problem is already there = No Bass - as in silence when muting the other instruments


I tested with 4 bar diddy. All tracks played well. The Bass played fine upon muting all others. Only unusual observation from this simple test is that the song did not stop when expected. It continued to play to end of 8 bars. Have you adjusted the endings?



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#750986 - 01/26/23 02:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: MusicStudent]
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Update:

If I load the style and replace the 1388 Bass with 1386 Bass, the bass will also NOT play.

If I load sister style: M_EZPN85.sty, (slow version) and replace its 1386 Bass with the 1388 (the non-playing one), it plays fine.

The problem thus seems style related and more specifically to the actual track since the bass can play if I load it into another track in the same style (see earlier test)

It seems as if the first track is invisibly disabled in this style.


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#750992 - 01/26/23 03:24 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Style not playing certain instruments [Re: berntd]
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Originally Posted By: berntd

It seems as if the first track is invisibly disabled in this style.


Regards
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But that is not what is happening here?

Side Note: In early Dec 2022 my 5 year old Dell DAW died. Within the next two weeks I purchased it,s replacement. A brand new shiny modern updated DAW with all the whistles and bells installed. Since that time BIAB has been working better than in the past. I have had numberous examples where I am not able to reproduce issues which others are reporting. Heck, in the past I was the one reporting most of the issues. But not since the new build. A coincidence? ...maybe or maybe not! crazy Good Luck.
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