Hi, Contains values like Country 35, Jazz 25, Jazz 30, Pop 90. Is this genre/year? The year seems a bit specific for a generic style. And there is a curious * symbol next to the Group label, but what does this mean?
Also the sort order seems strange. When sorting on this column you get Country 20, then Jazz 25, then Country 25? Makes no sense!
On related subject, can I hide the columns that don't interest me, to remove clutter and free up space for other columns?
The * is not curious. It is an indicator of the column that is selected, and the sort order Low to High. Try selecting another column and you'll see the * moves. Click that column name again and it toggles between * and ** (High to Low).
I prefer to sort on the Genre rather than the Group column.
We have requested a multiple-column sorting capability. This area of BIAB could be improved. The only way to do that now is use the filter string entry area.
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once a year i go thru the thousands of styles//rt's//rd's and using my own custom cataloguing system i create a favorite saved library of pg songs in various genres.
so , i sorta pare the herd to my own mini fav herd. includeing 'oddballs'. for example I might never do a greek or latin song ..but i dont let that stop me from testing rt's from those genres in case i find that they might 'fit' the current song i'm working on.
in summary i'm always looking for interesting sound pictures i can use. and i often cross pollinate various genres. in summary i dont limit myself to the stylepicker or even what biab might suggest as suitable rt's etc.
nice, yes i could squeeze the columns shut. thanks. still waiting for a explanation of the Group column though! seems to be one of life's many mysteries.
Here’s what ChatGPT has to say on the subject, and it certainly seems confident in its response to my…
Band-in-a-Box Stylepicker question
What style of music do you want Band-in-a-Box to play in?
My question is about the user interface. What does the group column mean?
The "group" column in Band-in-a-Box refers to the musical category or genre that a particular style belongs to.
What does the number in the group column indicate, for example, “Pop 35”?
The number in the "group" column (e.g. "Pop 35") in Band-in-a-Box is a style number that uniquely identifies the musical style within the given group (in this case, "Pop").
What’s the point if the style already has its own name?
The style number provides a quick and efficient way for users to search and identify specific styles within a large database, as well as to organize and categorize styles into groups. Having both the name and number helps to ensure that styles can be easily located and differentiated from one another.
thanks for checking, but it does not seem correct.
It isn't (presently, anyway) that unusual for ChatGPT to give a wrong answer. I do think it did a pretty good try at an explanation.
How right or wrong it was is probably moot. The "Pop 35" certainly can't and doesn't uniquely identify the style and more than the set number does.
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thanks for checking, but it does not seem correct.
You know, I didn’t even look, I was just so willing to offer my credulity to the AI, which didn’t even clear its throat before emitting that very confident but clearly incorrect answer. (Wonder how it came by that bit of misinformation?)
The correct answer, as you found, is that the number refers to “genre intensity score” — looking at _AIRTRIO.STY, classified as “Country 16”, the memo text states that Genre ”Intensity" Score=16/100 and likewise for other styles.
Interestingly, even a site-specific Google search of www.pgmusic.com for "style group" doesn't give any useful answer.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. Kawai MP6, Korg M50, Ui24R, Saffire Pro 40. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11; Win8.1: Scarletts BIAB2022 UltraPAK, Reaper, a bunch of stuff.
Of course I asked the bot about the number, it replied as below. If what it says is true, it's not as simple as a scale from 0=Mellow to 100=Frenzied, it's an index of how representative each style is of the genre it falls under — which would be an odd way to want to see things sorted, no? My confidence in ChatGPT as a BIAB "expert" is not high at the moment. Be that as it may...
CHATGPT SPEAKS:
"Genre Intensity Score" in Band-in-a-Box refers to a feature in the software that assigns a numerical value to the level of genre influence in a musical composition. This score indicates the style and genre of the music being played and helps users to categorize and organize their music library. The score ranges from 0 to 100, with higher scores indicating a stronger presence of a particular genre in the music.
Thanks Matt. While ChatGPT's answers are certainly fascinating, I think Simon's answer in that post you found is the most accurate. It is quite subjective. We'll make sure to add that to the StylePicker help topic etc.
Quote:
"Intensity" means how "intense" the music is. Smooth jazz and calm acoustic stuff will be on the lower end of the scale with a score up to 35 or so, Pop might be 35-60, medium rock might be 60-80, and heavy metal would be 80 and up.
It's possible for the Stylepicker to filter by Intensity from the "Other" filter menu. You can choose a pre-defined range, or set your own custom range.
Sadly, for me, the first of Matt's links gives "access denied".
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While ChatGPT's answers are certainly fascinating, I think Simon's answer in that post you found is the most accurate.
Yeah, sorry about muddying the waters with the ChatGPT stuff, it's just so specific and convincing.
The "level of genre influence" reading does seem unlikely on the face of it, and you really do have to wonder where it got that.
Simon's take on intensity is certainly more plausible. I would be 100% inclined to assume "genre intensity score" represents some kind of energy level and 0% inclined to think welllll maybe it indicates degree of compliance with genre standards.
I think that’s ok Gordon. The second link has Simon’s answer.
So is "intensity" the same thing as "group"?
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