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I started this song in December, a week ago David Smith provided an excellent solo. Two days ago I wrote the,lyric and yesterday drafted a melody.
It has a bit of a "sound" that can be vaguely tagged to the inspiration: Marquee Moon.
This morning I read that the singer & co-guitarist of that band died.
The song seems a little tawdry or churlish if considered a post death ka-ching.
It may be described as that but it, definitely, wasn't planned as a dark, death tribute.
Band In A Box provided the drums & piano.
David did the solo & I scratched about to managed the rest.
It is, at present, a work in progress.
1st Mix
Here's a remix based on suggestions..
REMIX #1
Read your way in
Speak your way out
You can't make the changes
If you're crippled with doubt.
Hide in your own skin
Mute your scream & shout
You can't talk to strangers
On the roundabout
C1
Minutes Hours Days Lifetimes
Like rats in a maze
Minute computations
Our procrastination
Dazed and still confused
Life crimes & the serial abused
V2
Talk your way in
Crawl your way out
It all rearranges
If you're with or without.
Peel off your old skin
Mute your scream & shout
You can't walk with strangers
On the roundabout
C2
Minutes Hours Days Lifetimes
Like rats in a maze
Minute implications
Our predestination
Dazed and falsely accused
Lifetime serially misused
V3
Lie your way in
Buy your way out
It all rearranges
If you're caught without.
Try on your new skin
Eat your scream & shout
No silver spoon or manger
When the reigns a drought.
C2
Minutes Hours Days Lifetimes
Rat's likely amazed
Minute alterations
Our brief fascinations
Dazed and still confused
Lifetime's crime excused


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I thought 'NOT QUITE READY but circumstances dictate' was a pretty interesting song title until I read that it wasn't shocked

I think it sounds already pretty good and mature for a WIP.
I like the verses a lot, the choruses are a bit bumpy and could have a better flow.
Interesting (in a good way) drum pattern, the ride cymbals could have a little break here or there.


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Howdy Ray, I think you've got a good one going here. I'm unfamiliar with the band you've mentioned, so I don't know how the words fit in that respect, but I think it's a good write overall. It may be just a personal thing, but I like the simplicity of this mix as compared to some of your others. There were a couple of places where the vocal could use a little polish, but I liked the way you sang it. I thought the bass work was good too. I also thought that ending music could have been a little more abrupt, but again that's just a personal style thing. I'm looking forward to hearing the finished product - this is good.

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Ray,

The guitar panning really kicks this off in an interesting way! While I'm not familiar with the singer/group you referenced this certainly sounds good to me! Your vocal is mixed really well to my ears! It's setting hotter in the mix than what I remember from earlier tunes of yours and I think it sounds just right! The guitar solo sounds like a great choice for this one! It really fits the whole vibe of the song!

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Ray,
It's a good song. Nice guitar work by Mr Smith.
Perhaps the guitar runs from the verse to the chorus could be louder - they sound good to me.
Much louder than usual vocal from you and it sounds fine.
Nice bass & rhythm.

It's coming along really well.

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Ray,

A lot of good stuff happening in this
The instruments all sound really good
Bass and drums are especially good (though not a fan of the open hat during the chorus)
Cool solo
Vocals are in a good place

The hard panned guitars tugged on my ears during the verse then sounded "right" during the chorus and solos

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Originally Posted By: B.D.Thomas
I thought 'NOT QUITE READY but circumstances dictate' was a pretty interesting song title until I read that it wasn't shocked
I think it sounds already pretty good and mature for a WIP.
I like the verses a lot, the choruses are a bit bumpy and could have a better flow.
Interesting (in a good way) drum pattern, the ride cymbals could have a little break here or there.

Thanks B.D.
I did consider it for the song title...actually I haven't settled on a title yet. Originally it was CRT then M/H/D what it ends up I don't know as yet.
I'll listen for the ride - it's only really busting loose in the last chorus but I'll listen.


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Originally Posted By: Brad Williams
Howdy Ray, I think you've got a good one going here. I'm unfamiliar with the band you've mentioned, so I don't know how the words fit in that respect, but I think it's a good write overall. It may be just a personal thing, but I like the simplicity of this mix as compared to some of your others. There were a couple of places where the vocal could use a little polish, but I liked the way you sang it. I thought the bass work was good too. I also thought that ending music could have been a little more abrupt, but again that's just a personal style thing. I'm looking forward to hearing the finished product - this is good.
Brad

Thanks Brad,
despite their influence not a lot of folk know the band, certainly not a chart act except in the UK.
The lyrics aren't related to the band in any way - just words to fit the spaces.
The vocal could use A LOT of polish but thanks for your kind words.

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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Ray,
The guitar panning really kicks this off in an interesting way! While I'm not familiar with the singer/group you referenced this certainly sounds good to me! Your vocal is mixed really well to my ears! It's setting hotter in the mix than what I remember from earlier tunes of yours and I think it sounds just right! The guitar solo sounds like a great choice for this one! It really fits the whole vibe of the song!
Thanks, T

It's an old band - kicked off around 72 but didn't release an album until 78.
Thanks for your generous words.


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Ray,

I really love this.

It totally reminds me of Television, who I love.

Brings back very pleasant memories of my NYC youth. I am smiling right now.

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Originally Posted By: PeterF
Ray,
It's a good song. Nice guitar work by Mr Smith.
Perhaps the guitar runs from the verse to the chorus could be louder - they sound good to me.
Much louder than usual vocal from you and it sounds fine.
Nice bass & rhythm.
It's coming along really well.
Peter

Thank you Peter,
I was nervous about that guitar interlude, the key is right but it is me playing so I couldn't be sure if it worked simply becasue I liked it. I'll bump it a bit.
The vocal is vastly improved by the JSFX Spectrum Matcher...I used David Bowie's verse vocal from Space Oddity as the reference track and the VST filled in the gaps to make me sound a bit warmer.
Yes, David did a cool thing.


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Ray,
A lot of good stuff happening in this
The instruments all sound really good
Bass and drums are especially good (though not a fan of the open hat during the chorus)
Cool solo
Vocals are in a good place
The hard panned guitars tugged on my ears during the verse then sounded "right" during the chorus and solos

Thanks Floyd,
The options were to continue the same as the verse, the open high hat or the full on ride assault of the final chorus. I opted for change/variety but will look/listen again.
Hard panned guitars - that's my laziness. It makes sense in the chorus with two very similar parts hard panned for a big sound but not in the verse. I'll pull the verse guitars in a bit - thanks for the good ears, (as usual).


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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Ray,
I really love this.
It totally reminds me of Television, who I love.
Brings back very pleasant memories of my NYC youth. I am smiling right now.
smile

Ah, life and experience, enhanced by music.
Well, your experiences in the Big Crapple both musical, cultural and social would predispose your mind to Television style openness.
THANKS!


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Remix posted


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Hi Ray, you never disappoint I like the swapping guitar left to right. Great job enjoyed very much thanks for sharing, Eric!


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I listened to the remix.

Love the pan on the guitars, very different, but effective.

Good vocal, I can hear you getting more confident with that. Great bass! And I really like the solo from David.

Cool song, Ray, enjoyed the listen.

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Ray, I hadn't heard of that band or band member so I can't compare this song to their song but I really liked this one.
Super groove, those choppy chords in the verses were brilliant.
Super vocal and mix.
Outstanding guitar and bass chops.


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I listened to the second mix. Sounds good, but the vocal was a bit buried in the second half.

Speaking of which, the best vocal I've heard from you yet!

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Ray,

I listened to the first mix a couple of days or so ago . . . listening to the remix now. It’s got a catchy vibe and I love the guitar runs in this (as well as the lead solo). I’m not sure at this point I have any suggestions . . . I’m wavering on whether the vocal should come up a bit . . . thinking so. It’s a really good vocal, would like to hear it a bit more I think. See what others think.

Sounding great so far!

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I listened to the remix.
Love the pan on the guitars, very different, but effective.
Good vocal, I can hear you getting more confident with that. Great bass! And I really like the solo from David.
Cool song, Ray, enjoyed the listen.

Thanks sir,
The vocal is the result of JSFX Spectrum Matcher giving some roundness to my voice.


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Hi Ray, you never disappoint I like the swapping guitar left to right. Great job enjoyed very much thanks for sharing, Eric!

Thanks Eric,
I enjoy playing codreggae...Bob Marley would be horrified but I'm not up with his chops.


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Ray, I hadn't heard of that band or band member so I can't compare this song to their song but I really liked this one.
Super groove, those choppy chords in the verses were brilliant.
Super vocal and mix.
Outstanding guitar and bass chops.

Mario,
Television were hugely influential on thinks that happened after 78 but aren't well know. Classic story of a US band doing better in the USA - like Buddy Holly, Hendrix, Creedence and the Beach Boys.


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Originally Posted By: dcuny
I listened to the second mix. Sounds good, but the vocal was a bit buried in the second half.
Speaking of which, the best vocal I've heard from you yet!
Good work!

Thanks david,
I've addressed the vocal level and will post an update.
Hope you're doing well.


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Originally Posted By: Deej56
Ray,
I listened to the first mix a couple of days or so ago . . . listening to the remix now. It’s got a catchy vibe and I love the guitar runs in this (as well as the lead solo). I’m not sure at this point I have any suggestions . . . I’m wavering on whether the vocal should come up a bit . . . thinking so. It’s a really good vocal, would like to hear it a bit more I think. See what others think.
Sounding great so far!
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Thanks Deej,
I was very shy of the prechorus runs - my playing so a good reason to be nervous. You've boosted my confidence no end.


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Hey Ray ...

This has a really cool arrangement! The guitars are perfect. And your vocal is just fine - pretty dang good, in fact!
Sounded great to me.

Another example of how to make relatively simple sound full and interesting. Good work!@

Take care ...

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Originally Posted By: Al-David
Hey Ray ...
This has a really cool arrangement! The guitars are perfect. And your vocal is just fine - pretty dang good, in fact!
Sounded great to me.
Another example of how to make relatively simple sound full and interesting. Good work!@
Take care ...
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Thanks Al,
Just some de-essing to go & I'll send it to the M.E.
The video is almost ready too.


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"Read your way in
Speak your way out
You can't make the changes
If you're crippled with doubt.
Hide in your own skin
Mute your scream & shout
You can't talk to strangers
On the roundabout"

What an entry to a great write! Shout/roundabout ... too cool.
Janice read it first before we listened and was smiling.

What a cool vibe to the song. Everything is in its place and your instrumental/vocal performances are ace!

"I used David Bowie's verse vocal from Space Oddity as the reference track. " Now that was an excellent choice!

"David did the solo & I scratched about to managed the rest"
The solo was perfecto for the vibe, the scratching worked out well, excellent soundstage and the panning was a good choice.

Kudos!

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