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Hallo, ich bin neu bei BiB und auch neu im Forum und grüße euch alle.
Mein Problem:
Ich möchte in BiB-Styles gängige Instrumente durch ungewöhnliche Sounds ersetzen. Dazu habe ich mir die Xpro Styles zugelegt. Die haben Real Sounds in den Tracks (Audio) und können auch Midi ausgeben. Damit hoffe ich eine Kombination aus den Originalsounds und meinen Soundkreationen bekommen.
Bis jetzt ist es mir aber nicht gelungen die XPro-Tracks auf MIDI umzuschalten, damit ich sie in NI-Kontakt spielen kann. Lediglich der Drumtrack ließ sich mit "Force Drumtracks to MIDI" entsprechend umschalten. Wie gelingt mir das bei den anderen Tracks (MIDI Daten sin vorhanden das kann man in der Pianoroll sehen)?
Wie kann ich XPro-Styles in einer Mischung aus Real-Tracks und MIDI-Tracks wiedergeben?
Für Tipps und Hilfe wäre ich sehr dankbar
Beste Grüße SiSKey
PS:Bis jetzt bin ich fast nur damit beschäftigt mich durch die ganzen Menüs und Einstellungen in BiB zu kämpfen, das ist frustrierend ( ich finde zum Teil auch wenig intuitiv), dabei möchte ich meine freie Zeit lieber fürs Musikmachen verwenden.
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Hello,
The XPro styles contain RealTracks. These are audio recordings of musicians playing real instruments, so you cannot choose a MIDI patch.
Just for your information, you will notice that many RealTracks have notation - this is called "RealCharts". While it is possible to export the MIDI notation as a MIDI file, it is not really intended to be played because it is a transcription. If you want to hear the MIDI part being played, you can drag the track to the "MIDI" section of the 'drop Station' (Top left of the main screen). Then, right click and select "audition this track".
On another note, there are MIDI Supertracks, which are somewhere in between RealTracks and MIDI tracks. These are also recordings of live musicians playing but they have been capture as MIDI. In the StylePicker, type "supertracks" in the filter to see some examples of this. In the StylePicker "Mixer" at the bottom of the dialog you can identify RealTracks (green), Supertracks (blue) and regular programmed MIDI tracks (yellow).
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Die XPro-Stile enthalten RealTracks. Dies sind Audioaufnahmen von Musikern, die echte Instrumente spielen, Sie können also kein MIDI-Patch auswählen.
Nur zu Ihrer Information, Sie werden feststellen, dass viele RealTracks eine Notation haben - dies wird "RealCharts" genannt. Obwohl es möglich ist, die MIDI-Notation als MIDI-Datei zu exportieren, ist sie nicht wirklich zum Spielen gedacht, da es sich um eine Transkription handelt. Wenn Sie den gespielten MIDI-Part hören möchten, können Sie die Spur in den „MIDI“-Bereich der „Drop Station“ (oben links auf dem Hauptbildschirm) ziehen. Klicken Sie dann mit der rechten Maustaste und wählen Sie "diesen Titel vorhören".
Außerdem gibt es MIDI-Supertracks, die irgendwo zwischen RealTracks und MIDI-Tracks angesiedelt sind. Dies sind auch Aufnahmen von live spielenden Musikern, aber sie wurden als MIDI erfasst. Geben Sie im StylePicker „Supertracks“ in den Filter ein, um einige Beispiele dafür zu sehen. Im StylePicker „Mixer“ unten im Dialog können Sie RealTracks (grün), Supertracks (blau) und regulär programmierte MIDI-Spuren (gelb) identifizieren.
Andrew
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Hallo,
ok das habe ich jetzt verstanden. Eigentlich wollte ich mit den Rt etwas kreativ sein und die eine oder andere Spur durch ungewöhnliche Klänge ersetzen. Das geht ja so wohl nicht.
Die Real Styles sind aber dennoch klasse und ich kann sie gut einsetzen.
Nach den MidiSupertracks schaue ich dann mal.
Vielen Dank
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Actually, I wanted to be a bit creative with the Rt and replace one or the other track with unusual sounds. That's probably not going to work. If you want to keep the same notes of the RT but play it with some MIDI patch / VSTi plugin you have, you can do that. As I mentioned, it will use the transcribed "RealChart", but this might be OK for what you are doing. In fact the transcription doesn't sound too bad for some RT's, plus you can edit the notation. Here is now you could do it: Let's say you are starting with _DREAMY.STY, and you would like to have your own custom patch play the bass line instead of the Electric Bass RT in the style. 1. Generate the song / re-generate until you are happy with the bass part. 2. Go to Edit | Copy Special | Copy/Move Tracks. Copy the MIDI part to Utility track #1. Do not copy the RT:  3. Now you have a MIDI bass part. You can, if you want, mute the RT bass part, choose the patch, and edit the notes in editable notation mode.[/img]  -------------------------- translation: Wenn Sie die gleichen Noten des RT behalten, aber mit einem MIDI-Patch / VSTi-Plugin spielen möchten, das Sie haben, können Sie das tun. Wie ich bereits erwähnt habe, wird das transkribierte "RealChart" verwendet, aber dies könnte für das, was Sie tun, in Ordnung sein. Tatsächlich klingt die Transkription für einige RTs nicht allzu schlecht, außerdem können Sie die Notation bearbeiten. Hier können Sie es jetzt tun: Angenommen, Sie beginnen mit _DREAMY.STY und möchten, dass Ihr eigener benutzerdefinierter Patch die Basslinie anstelle des Electric Bass RT im Stil spielt. 1. Song generieren / neu generieren, bis Sie mit dem Basspart zufrieden sind. 2. Gehen Sie zu Bearbeiten | Kopieren Spezial | Tracks kopieren/verschieben. Kopieren Sie den MIDI-Part auf die Utility-Spur Nr. 1. Kopieren Sie nicht die RT: 3. Jetzt haben Sie einen MIDI-Bass-Part. Sie können, wenn Sie möchten, den RT-Bass-Part stummschalten, das Patch auswählen und die Noten im editierbaren Notationsmodus bearbeiten.
Andrew
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