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There is nothing else that can give world class session musicians right in your studio DAW.
There are a few VSTi's that can give some recorded patterns but nothing to the extent of the recordings that Biab has.
The BBPlugin has been a start to get away from the learning curve of trying to work out Biab and not being able to sync it to your DAW workstation to create the tracks you need.
The BBPlugin can become a Professional Industry Standard Goto as long as these issues are sorted out:
Generate and Play tracks instantly in the Plugin by playing the source files direct from the generated text data, no rendering down to wav at all (unless needed to export).
Fit and sync with any Time Signature in the DAW.
Sync with any decimal varying tempo map.
Go over 255 bars.
48khz / 24bit source wav/aiff files.
If there are anymore you recommend, please list them.
At the moment there's not as much use of the BBPlugin as there should be simply because you can generate and play in Biab very quick and simply drag export files.
With the above way the Plugin could load a frozen Biab SGU and play it back identical instantly, no waiting and waiting and getting cups of coffee.
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>>Generate and Play tracks instantly in the Plugin by playing the source files direct from the generated text data, no rendering down to wav at all (unless needed to export).
Yes, planned for sometime in 2023.
>>Fit and sync with any Time Signature in the DAW.
Sync with any decimal varying tempo map.
We plan to add support for floating point tempos and any time signature, in BiaB, plug-in, and RB.
>Go over 255 bars.
Yes, planned for BiaB & plug-in. Already possible in RB.
>48khz / 24bit source wav/aiff files.
We have source wavs for this 24/48, and are looking into it. This I will take time, but should be worth it.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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You can use the bbw4 generated txt for now then once that's working smoothly start transitioning the generate code over and the tabbed multipicker within the VST.
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We plan to add support for floating point tempos and any time signature, in BiaB, plug-in, and RB. Will this addition allow the VST plugin to properly sync to a host even if the tempo is varying (such as ritardando and accelerando)? Thank you!
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Yes it should do that as well as time signatures.
So the DAW tempo will send to the Plugin and the audio playback rate will be changed on the fly to match the DAW current tempo so even if it's 120.578bpm it will adjust the audio or midi playback according.
You can write the source RT tempo to the wav file if you want to render and it will fit the DAW track or you can drag a midi tempo map from the DAW into the Plugin and it will read the tempo map and time signatures.
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I think the BIAB VST is more advertised than used.
It was because I saw the BIAB VST plug-in that I started to pay attention to BIAB again.
However, in my experience, I think I can just use BIAB. Because BIAB VST is not as stable and convenient as expected.
The authorities should put more time and effort into BIAB itself, because there are so many things that need to be improved, and even a few more modern music styles are important.
WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII，Studio One,FL STUDIO
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I think the BIAB VST is more advertised than used. Thinking doesn't make it so. I use it with every project that makes it to my DAW. Where is you "expertise"?
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I think the BIAB VST is more advertised than used.
It was because I saw the BIAB VST plug-in that I started to pay attention to BIAB again. I'm in the same boat. I had a trial version over 15 years ago but decided then the software wasn't quite there yet. Ran across a good sale recently and grabbed the UltraPak+. Unfortunately I can't run any of the stand-alone versions as they do not allow me to choose my ASIO driver (RME Fireface) or it just crashes. The VST3 plugin has not crashed on me even though it has exhibit a host of other issues (no audio from the plugin seems to be working e.g.). I still have a few weeks to evaluate the software and frankly, I'm on the fence.
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they do not allow me to choose my ASIO driver (RME Fireface) or it just crashes. It may well be worth using PGM's chat service for this. You'll get real knowledgeable staff who can usually help, not a chatbot.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
Kawai MP6, Korg M50, Ui24R, Saffire Pro 40.
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BIAB2022 UltraPAK, Reaper, a bunch of stuff.
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[quote=swingbabymix]Unfortunately I can't run any of the stand-alone versions as they do not allow me to choose my ASIO driver (RME Fireface) or it just crashes. When I was using BIAB, I never used AISO. When I use STUDIO ONE, I set ASIO
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[quote=swingbabymix]Unfortunately I can't run any of the stand-alone versions as they do not allow me to choose my ASIO driver (RME Fireface) or it just crashes. When I was using BIAB, I never used AISO. When I use STUDIO ONE, I set ASIO Same here, I use ASIO in Studio One and MME in BiaB. This way I can have both active at the same time. The only reasons to use ASIO in BiaB is if you are recording into it or if you have a ton of tracks and your playback is having glitches. Personally I never record in BiaB.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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It may well be worth using PGM's chat service for this. You'll get real knowledgeable staff who can usually help, not a chatbot. That's really good to know, thanks.
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The only reasons to use ASIO in BiaB is if you are recording into it or if you have a ton of tracks and your playback is having glitches.
Or if your interface only has ASIO drivers.
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The only reasons to use ASIO in BiaB is if you are recording into it or if you have a ton of tracks and your playback is having glitches.
Or if your interface only has ASIO drivers. Band-in-a-Box has two other audio driver selections, MME and WAS. Both are audio interface agnostic because both are operating system drivers. However since they are "generic" drivers provided by the operating system and not the equipment manufacturer, they can induce more latency when recording. For that reason, when the equipment manufacturer provides an ASIO driver most people prefer using the supplied ASIO driver while recording. But the generic audio drivers have an advantage over most ASIO drivers; they can be used by multiple programs at the same time while most ASIO drivers can only work with one program at a time. That's a huge advantage when you're trying to use Band-in-a-Box with a DAW or with some streaming platform. Some find it is easier to let whatever program is recording use the ASIO driver and programs not recording use WAS or MME.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
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For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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