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I've noticed a problem with BIAB. I have 32 measures of chords that I want repeated and then another 32 measures I want to move to and repeat. I enter the 64 measures then highlight the first 32, select Edit->Song Form->Repeats/Codas/1st-2ndEnding. Then select Repeats radio button, and Okay-Make Repeat button. Then I repeat for the last 32 measures. This all works great!
If I save this then use the display to enter new chords for the 64 measures and save as a different name, it works for the first time but then plays the old set of chords on the repeat.
I'm essentially using the first file as a template but BIAB is not repeating what is shown. It has somehow stored the old chords and uses them as a repeat.
Should I be doing this in a different way or is this a bug?
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It's possible for the chords in the repeated section to be different but be hidden from view. In the Views area of the toolbar, click the Fakesheet button and click the first menu item so it's unchecked ('Display Chord sheet in Fakesheet mode'). This will allow you to see all of the bars in your song including the repeat.
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
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Yes, I suppose what is happening under the covers is a cheap cut and paste even though the display indicates two repeat signs at measure 1 and 32 with a 2x indicating it is reaping that section twice. I assume this is true since after I have done the first operation, what was labeled bar 33 now becomes labeled 65 (pushed out for the paste).
I also tried the using the "Song Form Dialog". Indicating measure 1-32 as A and 33-64 as B, then asked for form AABB. BIAB does the same cheap thing; copying A twice and B twice.
This behavior makes editing a section marked with repeats or as an A or B section very cumbersome. After opening a saved file marked like this and editing it, the display is no longer WYSIWYG the repeated areas are actually shadow saved and that is what gets played unless you clear all the repeats and redo them.
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The repeat symbols are intended to be a way for you to view/print your song like it would appear in a Fake book. When you have a repeated section, the repeated bars do not disappear, Band-in-a-Box still has to generate parts for them. The parts will be slightly different, as you would expect if you listened to musicians play the song, and the melody and soloist might not play exactly the same way each time. So the bars are there as they need to be, but they can be conveniently hidden from view if you select "Fakesheet mode".  There are two ways that you can create a repeat. In the repeats dialog, if you have "generate new bars" selected, then BIAB will add in the repeated bars. If unchecked, then it will use bars that already exist. I would suggest writing your entire song form as you would play it the whole way through. Then go back if you want to add a repeat, and leave the 'generate new bars' unchecked.
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
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When you have a repeated section, the repeated bars do not disappear, Band-in-a-Box still has to generate parts for them. The parts will be slightly different, as you would expect if you listened to musicians play the song, and the melody and soloist might not play exactly the same way each time. Andrew, I'm building a song based on _PIANOLIN.STY and repeated parts are more than slightly different from 1st repeat in my case. More precisely Piano1 and Piano2 tracks are completely silent during 2nd repeat. Is there a possibility to create repeats as exact copy and let user to change/regenerate particular parts afterwards with MultiRiff feature? Or any other workaround? EDIT: I made another new song based on _PIANOLIN.STY (on my second machine) and this time repeats work as expected.
Last edited by Filo; 03/12/23 10:26 AM.
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