"you have an absolutely massive PG midi library of midi."
Indeed. Instead of PGmusic creating something for Toontrack, we should have these for our use within BIAB, the ezee way, eliminating the need for Ezkeys. That is why I suggested having them selectable as regular tracks, like we do with RT, RD, SM, Loops & UTs. Truth be told, one of the reasons I bought EZkeys, because there were not much enthusiasm from users or PG himself on that proposal.
I looked at the item you suggested from sessionbandloops, but these are WAVs, not MIDI.
Yes, Dan's guy has smaller sets (sometimes he has wild sales). The pack I suggested has about 200 loops. Both (Dan's and mine) are played by people, so they are in a way similar to Super Midis, but shorter.
Ya, well that did not work well that I can tell. I picked a folder (Midi supertrack6demos-latin piano) with 6 .sgu files. When done BIAB reported 6 midi files had been written, but where they are is anyones guess. they were not in the sgu folder.
I also tried to extract the midi from the supertrack demos .sgu folders (took a test copy of: SuperTracks8 Demos - More Country Piano, and kept a few files in it for test). I then doubled clicked in one of the SGU files to open BIAB.
Using the Midi Batch option as above it seems to generate the midi files in the same folder as I selected in the batch command and from which started the SGU from. However I got midi for all the instrument tracks not only the piano (even if I have piano selected and mute the rest).
Also comparing a midi file generated with the Batch command vs generated midi with the single file command seems to generate slightly different midi files for the same SGU song. But when generating a single file midi I can get only the piano track midi when I have piano selected.
I now wonder if it is possible to only have the "piano track" generated as midi when using the Batch command.
I was looking for a batch midi splitter but none of them worked well so I'm just making one up to do it all. Should be able to make a batch script to load a chord template and opens the the next style and saves to SGU/MGU to a folder then batch converts the folder to mid.
OK, I found the 6 midi files. Ya, I use Everything. They were in the .sgu source folder, don't know why I did not see them last night.
But the result from using them in EZKeys were not favorable. EZKeys had no problem isolating and identifying the multiple instruments in the arrangement and identifying "piano", but I don't think it was meant to be used with these large number of bars. Also I suspect that the midi cc info such as pedal on/off and velocity may be absent.
My conclusion at his point is just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it. But that is just me.
TheMaartian, here is Dan's guy: mediamusicmasterystore.com If you stay on site for few minutes (and have your pop-up blocker turned off) you should get a window to sign up for newsletter... and get a free MIDI pack. You can get it, to see if it works for you.
Merci beaucoup! Muchas gracias! Note that there's a link at the bottom of each page on his website to request the Cinematic Sampler MIDI file. I really like that these are longer phrases (0:45 to 1:30), compared to the EZKeys MIDI. I'm going to purchase the Black Piano, White Pian, Truly Free, Progressions and Piano Meditations packs. On the fence for the Lonely Piano pack since it's all in 3/4. Some of the packs are on sale at the moment.
EDIT: What the hey. Picked up the Lonely Piano pack, too. What's life without a little 3/4?
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Glad you are appreciating Todd's material. I discovered him early last year and have picked up a number of his packages. Keep in mind, I don't think any of this was "intended" to be used in EZKeys. In fact, only in the past week or two have I even tried it and found that some of it was indeed well suited. Otherwise, I always have worked with his material directly in Reaper. And by the way, his 3/4 midi was inspirational. I thought 3/4 was only for waltzes, he showed me differently.
I have only tested EZKeys with one midi file extracted from BIAB but I think is sounds more or less the same when played "piano solo" in BIAB as when dragged into EZKeys.
However I had hoped to be able to use it in the EZKeys User Library (I did put a copy in the Library folder). It turned up as an entry in the User Library but when I am trying to use it over my own chords sequence in EZKeys it does not sound good at all. The library stuff probably need to be in chunks in some type of format I would guess.
If you want to render smaller bar sections just highlight the chord sheet. If you take the song name out you won't get a massive long filename. BBPiano_Real 1535 Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopPowerPushA-B Ev 120_SingleRender_DragDrop.mid You can use Bulk File Renamer to remove the "_SingleRender_DragDrop" from all.
To do it in Reaper create a new project and save as style name, Drag the Batch render Midi (without the 2 bar lead-in) from Biab into Reaper, Import/Expand to multi track and import tempo map, Split up any section of track then highlight all those sections, Then run "Convert active take MIDI to .mid file reference" these will save in project folder. Don't forget to create Endings and Holds for EZKeys.
- Emotions Vol 1 - MIDI Piano Loops & - Emotions Vol 2 - MIDI Piano Loops
They have a test midi package for download that can be dropped into EZKeys library for testing.
These all sound good. Keep em coming along with any followup. Several years ago (well maybe longer) I did a deep search for this stuff and never remember seeing these. I think this is a better use of our time then panning for old gold in BIAB files.
It will take me some time to fully sus these out as I am in the middle of a big project.
My guess, with four different 3rd party products, emotional and cinematic phrased MIDI loops are covered well.
I am really interested in some human played funky, syncopated grooves (pop funk, pop jazz), Latin/Brazilian/Bossa and Oldies Pop/ballads in MIDI. 8+ Bars. Anybody?
(a little bit hard to find, I was initially looking at Patotec Productions but could not find it, then I saw the YT above and it shows Bigfishaudio.com)
This video from Shawn at Shootie School is pre-requisite viewing if you intend to use 3rd party midi with any toontrack product. So I thought best to put a link here...
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