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Hi, I'm new to Band in a Box, so this may be easy to fix. I just bought 2023 version. When I load a RealTracks song it does not find the style to go with it.
If I load the song - A Southern Girl 160 country-outlaw male G _WAYLGP, it does not find the _WAYLGP.style. It does work in the style select page but cannot be loaded up.

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Originally Posted By: KarlBB
Hi, I'm new to Band in a Box, so this may be easy to fix. I just bought 2023 version. When I load a RealTracks song it does not find the style to go with it.
If I load the song - A Southern Girl 160 country-outlaw male G _WAYLGP, it does not find the _WAYLGP.style. It does work in the style select page but cannot be loaded up.


Welcome to the forums.

What BiaB Pak did you purchase? Is it Pro (which is their entry level starter Pak), Mega, Ultra, Audiophile etc. That might be related?

I'm presuming that the song is from folder:
"\bb\Songs and Lessons\Artist Performance Sets\Artist Performance Set 14 - Songs with Vocals volume 4"

and the full name is:
"A Southern Girl 160 country-outlaw male A _ROBBER+.MGU"

Does you mixer show exactly these tracks, including track numbers and full names, or does it show some substitutions?

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The style _WAYGLP is from the "2012/04 Misc." set. Presumably you don't have that style?
(You can search for it in the StylePicker)

Select Help > What add-ons do I have?
Does the missing style show up in these lists?:

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AT, 100% in all three categories! Wow, good for you mate. grin


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grin Well, I'm certainly trying. My friends sometimes tell me I'm 'very trying' wink


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Hi, I have the PRO version and no there are many less instruments in the display.

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Also I am missing lots of optional Style sets.

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The (unfortunately named) 'Pro' version has the least number of RealTracks and Styles. It is the Starter / Entry level product.

You could purchase the missing sets and that would get you going. PG Music online chat might be able to help also. It's available from their website.


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Thanks for your help. I am however disappointed by this.

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Originally Posted By: KarlBB
Thanks for your help. I am however disappointed by this.
... and that's probably the main reason many of us dislike the 'Pro' label. I think it isn't intended to mislead, but I think it too often does.

Try contacting PGM via their Chat (actual real and knowledgable people) or via support@pgmusic.com and they may be able to help.

FWIW, after we've been using BIAB a while, most of us end up getting the UltraPAK version as there is a huge wealth of content. It's quite often a little cheaper to buy Pro and then upgrade. The usual advice if when/if you're ready, get the biggest pack you can sensibly afford. In the mean time, the styles etc. in Pro are good but limited and BIAB will often/usually offer an alternative style if the original one isn't available.


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Originally Posted By: KarlBB
Thanks for your help. I am however disappointed by this.

I totally understand your disappointment. Unfortunately, we are just end users, like you.


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Originally Posted By: KarlBB
Thanks for your help. I am however disappointed by this.


I think we all encountered this. I think it's probably because for marketing purposes, "PRO" sounds better than "BEGINNER" or "STARTER" pak. I'd like to see it re-labeled as LEVEL 1, LEVEL 2 and so on, but I'm not in the PG marketing dept.

The simple solution is to purchase one of the higher versions that does have the styles you want. I believe that if you dig deep enough on the packages page, they have a list of everything in each of the various packages.

I remember I was looking for the steel guitar real tracks and country styles and in the first version I bought, there wasn't many if any. I contacted support and they told me what version I needed and since I was a new customer who had recently bought it, I could upgrade for the difference in the price. I did that and from that point on have always used the Ultrapak+ version.

A less costly alternative is to simply buy just the add on pack you want, to get the styles you're looking for.


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Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Thanks a lot for the advice, much appreciated.

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