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An interesting test is to listen to music sung in a language you don't understand and don't know. This either makes some folk reach for the non existent subtitles, listen to it and imagine the lyric or listen to it as sound. One of the songs I love fits that description nicely. All the more so, I think, because we can understand some of it, but not other parts. I think it should be left to the listener to find out the language and the meaning. It's a lovely song also in translation, if perhaps a little unexpected. +++ Yamore +++ by Salif Keita and Cesaria Evora.
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Yes, I'm talking about the music of a song lyric. When those words become part of a song they become music. A Capella is a great example. And yes, I include Rap in "songs". If the definition of "song" has become broad enough to include pieces of music which have never been married to a lyric, then it should include lyrics which have no discernible melodic connection to the rest of the music. I've mostly been watching this thread with my original "it all depends" view, but I'd like to add a bit that shows just how grey the area is between music and lyrics (and indeed Rap), by drawing attention to how poems can be musical without actually necessarily being music per se. That blurring from poem to lyric to tone poem to music. Two British poems: This Is The Night Mail - W H Auden Cargos - John Masefield
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+++ HERE +++ is a 1963 number 1 song that kind of blows the lyric/music poll completely out of the water. This #1 hit’s original Japanese title was "Ue o Muite Arukō," which translates as “I look up when I walk.”
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We 2 don't always agree when it comes to music, but here I'm 100% with you: the groove, the beat, the chords, in that order. If that grabs me, I don't really care about the rest.
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The Perfect Country Song One of my favorites when I could use a pick me up is "You never even call me by my name," by Steve Goodman and John Prine. The theme is that no country song can ever be considered complete without some mention of Mama, dogs, prison, trains, pickup trucks, and getting drunk. It was late after they wrote the song, but not until the next day that Steve completed it.
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