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There's a possibility that the company has a preference to introduce new features as a priority over many requests for improving existing features.
The introduction of the AI lyrics generator and AI stem splitter in 2025 are two possible examples.

Misha,

Is this correct? I would have thought that 'a number of people' is more accurate than 'most people'. The forum has nearly 40,000 members and I don't recall a thread that had over 20,000 people replying to a post to say that they agree with such a statement. Have I missed something? I was in and out of hospital a few times during the year so I might not have seen everything.

I recall the poll below to which a few people responded (29, I think).
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=813482#Post813482

I also remember this 'White Paper' thread. While this thread had nearly 12,000 views, only 115 people responded.
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=811732#Post811732

Statements such as the one you made paint PG Music as the 'bad guys', because such a comment makes it sound as if the company doesn't care about its customers. Honestly, is that your personal experience? Does PG Music consist of 'bad guys'? Personally, I have enormous respect for what Peter Gannon and his team have done, and I have found PG Music one of the friendliest and most accommodating companies that I have ever dealt with. I have never once been let down by PG Music in my 18 years of dealing with them.

Regards,
---Noel

Oki Doki. You asked...

#1 Noel, first of all, please don't shovel words into my mouth. Bad juju.

#2 In most cases the points I am making resonate with users. Not all, but most. In fact, most critique I express, I base on common outcries. Have you noticed any lately, or should I point you to specific threads?

#3 There are only a handful of users that I know of, and I followed forum closely since 2018, who are in favor of redundant / obsolete features, giving ridiculous reasons, finding absurd excuses, blaming users for not following obscure workflow and offering workarounds as a panacea. Resisting common sense calls for improvements. Is this where we need to go?

#4 To directly answer your question. No, I don't believe "PG Music consist of 'bad guys'". Absolutely not.
But I do believe they are a bit disconnected from user base. Most common and loud requests are: Fix known bugs and Workflow & GUI (as far as software goes). Some things are being done and they are noticed, but not nearly enough and not fast enough.

#5 I care deeply about the future of BIAB as it's my center for creating initial idea/sketch for the songs. I want it to be successful and healthy for years to come. Time ago, PGM had a luxury of developing software at their own pace as they were truly unique, but there has been a tectonic shift with AI and other phrase based algorithmic software that use pitch/stretch techniques of real audio. To cement itself, BIAB needs to re-evaluate the need for questionable features and heavily focus on the items that have been suggested over and over again by paid members. Specifically: Known bugs and issues eliminated, Workflow & UI, Redundancy minimized.

Afterword:
Some folks, (and me at some point) suggested a complete rewrite of BIAB. I have changed my opinion on this.
My personal major concerns were addressed in last a few years. Mainly, 64 bit, more tracks, partial regeneration, MTP, Chord Track, VST3 and a few others. But one item that I thought was never going to be possible is speed. I thought that it's a bottleneck of the old code. Fortunately PGM solved that in 2024, making regenerations super fast. I truly believe that BIAB can be made significantly better without major rewrites. But it needs to act aggressively not to miss the unique opportunity while it still has good following. And this:
I always purchase my BIAB licenses and the ones that I received as generous SC awards, or for helping out, I always re-gift. That's my way of supporting and showing my sincere gratitude for PGM.

The End.