I once was having a debate on here (about whatever) and used an example from video games as an analogy, which promptly went right over everyone's head and didn't help my case at all So here's my question - Is it possible that people who play video games and people who play BBox are two demographics so distant that there just is no overlap whatsoever? Am I the only one?!
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I use BB but I don't play video games.... does that help?
The most recent video game I own is the Microsoft Flight Simulator that still as the World Trade Center Towers in downtown Manhattan. They removed them from the next version. I haven't flown that simulator in twenty years now. As a licensed pilot, it's one thing to jump in a plane and fly somewhere and spend an hour doing that... it's another thing totally to do that same flight in a simulator sitting in a chair at a desk waiting for the miles to tick away.
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I don't think so, isn't forum member Allanah an avid gamer.
I tend to dip in myself often but mainly on VR (Quest 2) all the time these days, though I am no dedicated gamer, most of the time not finishing the game, especially if its fairly difficult.
Still enjoy it though, just tried Assassins Creed VR (got to mission 10 before I got fed up with it as was not helping my eyesight) so have moved on now to Peaky Blinders VR. So far its enjoyable.
Eyesight is not good which is a factor (Nystagmus) but still you have to work with what you have.
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No, you are not the only one. Not only do I play video games I wrote a couple for the Bally Astrocade video game's user group. I also did a golf game for the Atari computer system, but both of those were years ago. Now on occasion I will play a couple of Wii games, mainly hockey or pinball.
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I have to confess that I've never played a video game in my entire life. Not that there's anything wrong with video games. I'm getting the picture that there is no definite connect or disconnect between video games and BiaB users.
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I've been playing video games since the old Atari and before that on arcades with Space Invaders and Asteroids and even Pong. Nowadays I play FPS games on the computer as well as other types.
Another thing which brought on this thread is when I heard this:
Now, I instantly recognised the game this song is from, because I've played it - and I also instantly recognised the BBox style that's clearly been used in it, because I've played it
And that made me wonder just how many people would be able to make that claim, which I still remain convinced is - hardly anyone!
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
Is it possible that people who play video games and people who play BBox are two demographics so distant that there just is no overlap whatsoever? Am I the only one?!
Before my health took a nose dive and I couldn’t pass my flight physical, I had a private pilot’s certification and flew Cessna 172, 182, and 336 routinely. Now the only way that I can get my flying fix is with MSFS and a set of Varjo Aero VR. The only other games that I play are some of the old WWII submarine simulations.
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<...snip...> So here's my question - Is it possible that people who play video games and people who play BBox are two demographics so distant that there just is no overlap whatsoever? Am I the only one?!
The last video game I played was “Pong” on my Atari computer. It got boring quite quickly. Of course, the games are much better now, but I have other things I'm more interested in doing in my play time.
So FWIW, count me in the group that plays music, but not video games.
I do enjoy playing a few games occasionally with my children. Mario Kart is lots of fun. Personal all time favorites are Tetris, Sonic, Mario, Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, and a few more. I am not a gamer, but would play once a week for half an hour or so.
One of the last games that really hooked me is actually on mobile devices / phones called Brain It On. It's a puzzle, but of very different kind. It makes you think outside the box (I am not talking about BIAB). Pretty cool brain exercising app. Levels could last as little as a few seconds. Great time waster if you are standing in line or waiting for bus, etc. I urge those who like logic games to try it. I think first 20 levels are free and than it is only couple of dollars to buy full version. Runs on Android, iphone and their tablet counterparts.
I do enjoy playing a few games occasionally with my children. Mario Kart is lots of fun. Personal all time favorites are Tetris, Sonic, Mario, Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, and a few more. I am not a gamer, but would play once a week for half an hour or so. .......................................
Misha, I want to thank you for naming me as one of your favorites
Ducking and running for cover.
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I could say I'm an avid gamer. Lately, I've been playing 7 Days to Die. Any other players around here? My friends and I set up a private server through 7d2d.net for just $6/month, and we have some slots free. If anybody wants to join, PM me.
Years ago I was an Atari Tech fixing the game machines and computers all the way up through the Atari ST series which I was introduced to MIDI on it because it was the only computer with a built in MIDI interface at the time. I did play lots of games on the Commodore 64 and Atari. In the 90's I got hooked on the PC version of the Tomb Raider Series with Laura Croft. I still love Red Dead Redemption 2 today and I find some of these high end graphics are mind blowing. It seems like yesterday I was playing with 8 bit pixel graphics and now the latest 3D Unreal Engine stuff. I have always loved high tech whether music or computer stuff.
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I used to be. I had a ton of games for my Atari ST computers. I even programed a couple of games for the Bally video game. A football game I did was published. I also did a golf game for the Atari but I didn't submit it for publication. I found out that those funny looking plugs on the Atari ST would allow me to record music so I purchased a keyboard and started on my MIDI journey.
{edit} I do have a WII and I still play pinball on it. I was a real pinball wizard back in the day. I still love real pinball games.
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That's really cool Mario, that is how I got hooked into MIDI myself. I did not know you programmed games!!! I went to Nevada Gaming and Technology school in Las Vegas to learn how to work on Poker, Slots and gaming machines. Included in my courses was Video Arcade, Jukeboxes and Pinball machines. I got to work on them old Bally Pinball machines and others in school. It was a lot fun. The strange thing is I never did go into the Casino trade. I ended playing music for some time and then moved to Arkansas and went to work for Xerox, Canon, and Sharp till I retired a few years back.
BIAB 2026 Ultrapack- Fender Studio Pro 8, Windows 11, Mac Mini M4 with Logic Pro 11, Melodyne Studio, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 4th gen
Having gotten my private pilot license as a younger man I have always been fascinated with flight. Not having the deep pockets and discretionary income necessary to rent, let alone own an airplane, I was forced to go with flight simulation. As far as games on a computer go, I've spent a lot of time with Microsoft Flight Simulator and a couple of other flight sims that put me in the cockpit of the worlds most advanced military fighters.
Funny story.... My oldest daughter also got into the MS flight sim. I had the 2000 version. One day I walked in and my daughter was flying a heavy jet. She was flying around New York City.... Straight ahead were the twin towers. Yep..... Plowed right into one of them. I thought to myself, where did I go wrong? But she turned out ok in the end. My daring outlaw flying consisted of flying a Lear under the Hudson bridges.
Aside from those and a brief period of fascination with solitaire and pinball, I don't really spend time with games. I've never gotten into the multiplayer games online. Not ever to check it out.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.
The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
It's probably no surprise to most of you that I'm a gamer (as well as being both a BB user and musician) and I've written music and done sound design for games too. These days I mostly play Zelda or Souls style games, but I have a soft spot for RPG's.
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