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Uh... yeah... I have ACE Studio. It doesn't pronounce the English language very well. Perhaps if I worked on a track for two years...

Don't get me wrong, I like it for demos but IMO, it's just not very good yet.

The reading and checking is important, though, as AI sometimes gets things badly wrong.

I have to say this is the single reason I very seldom come here anymore.
It's been almost 2 months since my last comment.
And that was a question.
Mike H and Herb were kind enough to help me with answers from experience.
The last word is what I personally feel is important in taking advice from anyone.
Experience.

AI song generation is like anything.
I don't feel it's great on its own, but it's powerful in the hands of an artist.
Someone who takes the time to truly learn it as a skill.
Most of the opinions I've seen here are typically (to be clear, not always) from people who have very little experience with actually making songs using these technologies.
Damn, do they have strong opinions on it though.

You can keep arguing your opinions, but guess what?
They have virtually no impact on the outcome.
NONE of us really has much say in this that will change anything.
To me, it's wasted time taking you from actually doing something musically that CAN impact someone.
Your music!
Even if it's just for your own enjoyment.
And if you are able to move someone else emotionally by it, hey that's a bonus.
But arguing opinions is so much easier than actually making music.
People who can’t write a lick of music could come here and argue their opinions.

The things that are important to many musicians, many times, the listener doesn't know or even want to know.
They. Don't. Care.
In their world, they like the song or they don't.
They couldn't tell you if the thing filling the track out is a 12-string Martin or a marimba.
The best you will maybe get is "See, now that sounds gooood."
And I would take that over some in-depth explanation of how different BIAB is vs. a virtual instrument using MIDI vs. Udio pumping something out, any day.

So as far as my own results with AI, I think I've done decent with it.
My tests are simple.
Do I like how it turned out?
If yes, great.
If not, back to the skill board and learn from it.
It's sort of the same mentality as learning an instrument, mixing (which I still suck at), basically anything that is a skill.
That's life.

Debating and arguing is also a skill.
Yet, I have far from mastered that.
You may be in the same boat as me though if this is still going on like this.
In the two months I've mostly been gone, the same old rehashed opinions are still trying to be "proven."

I don't want to say where to spend your time, but many of you are so damn talented, it's a little disheartening to see you spending your time on things like this instead.
I hear and feel your songs.
I just wish there were more of them.

I hope none of this comes across as preachy.
That is NOT my intent by a long shot.
I just feel some of you are being called from your greatness for lesser things.

Chad, it's always good to see a post you've made in the forum. You always offer great insights and focus on music. Mike Halloran and Herb Hartley did such a good job answering your question about "bass shaker" amplifier there wasn't much to add to their responses.

I agree with you the forum atmosphere has changed. Perhaps the forum is more of a reflection of the society we live in than it was in times past. I don't know but I recognize there is a change. This ain't the friendliest forum on the internet any more.

Take care.

AI lies as well. I've had it do multiple choice questions on chapters of books the kids are supposed to read and it's not averse to making up stuff. One AI instructional course I did suggested to not ask more than 10 multiple choice questions at a time of AI as the quality drops. Having said that I just got one sight to give me simple sentences in the present tense using various verbs with translations into Cantonese and it churned out 150 in seconds. One website will look at your lesson plan activities (eg from AI) and critique it for positive and negative possible outcomes so that you can think more about the lesson plan or activities if necessary or not use it. Amazing stuff. I just use Suno to write a song to my wife for our wedding anniversary. Life saver!

One of the reasons I have been absent here. I've been working on music for several of the listings and in the agreement I signed, it says no posting online of anything that I submit to a project. Doing so risks my deal with the publisher. So....

I just signed a number of tracks to one of my publishers. When they sent out the 2025 first quarter music listings and cover sheet, there was a notification that if we hadn't already read and signed the new writer's agreement, that we would need to do that before submitting any new tracks.

There was a very specific and detailed section on the use of AI generated music and lyrics, saying do not use AI in any aspect of creating music. It actually went well beyond that however, by placing a prohibition on the use of the synth vocals in any submission.
Anyone who violates that section of the agreement is subject to being banned from the publisher and ALL of their music removed from the catalog.

It has to do with the copyright controversy or to say it more accurately, the lack of being able to legally copyright the music under the current US-LOC regulations regarding AI and copyright.

The comment in the body of the email advising everyone to be aware of the new section of the agreement essentially said if you are going to be a writer and composer of music, you should be able to write and compose without the aid of a machine....or else, why do it?

Makes sense to me.

Sounds familiar.

I'm using some AI tools but only for knocking out demos where the tools do save time and are worth the money.


Exactly!