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I haven't taken the media seriously since the day I was born, and I used to be in the media.

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Originally Posted by David Snyder
I haven't taken the media seriously since the day I was born, and I used to be in the media.

I guess it's possibly all about selling papers.


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Weirdly, he doesn't include a link to the NYT article he's referencing.

And since the original article is behind a paywall, it's hard to know what it criteria it uses.


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Well, it could be that she is but my question would be will she be remembered as long as the Beatles? I think not.

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Wouldn't be the first time the NYT got caught just making stuff up.


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I guess it's all in how you figure it.

Personally, I'd rather listen to the Beatles.


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I was talking to one of her many "collaborators" in Nashville a few years ago who said, "Mr. & Mrs. Smith paid a lot of money for their daughter, Taylor, to be a star." I then asked if she actually co-wrote (___) to which she replied, "She may have been in the room."

I think her parents got a nice return on their investment.


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Who cares? Her fans love her, so, good for her and for them!

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Originally Posted by JohnJohnJohn
Who cares? Her fans love her, so, good for her and for them!

I agree!


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Who cares? Her fans love her, so, good for her and for them!
Yes, that's an excellent point. Taylor makes people happy. The Beatles make people happy.
That's still today's reflection. That may change in the future, and it might go either way. Who knows? However, only time will tell...


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I was talking to one of her many "collaborators" in Nashville a few years ago who said, "Mr. & Mrs. Smith paid a lot of money for their daughter, Taylor, to be a star." I then asked if she actually co-wrote (___) to which she replied, "She may have been in the room."

I think her parents got a nice return on their investment.

Gotta wonder if the deal was "inked" at the crossroads of Hwy 61 & 49 near Clarksdale Mississippi at midnight in blood. That said....even "Old Scratch" wants to see some promise in his acquisitions in the beginning. But yeah, I had heard they spent a lot of money getting her a deal in the early days.


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Perhaps Taylor Swift is "bigger than the Beatles" in the same way the Beatles were "bigger than Jesus". My only other observation is that Taylor (unlike John) is not the one who said it. Apparently.


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I know full well that I'm missing a few chips that other people have, but I just never have understood celebrity worship and my level of celebrity worship for any human being has always remained around zero.

So whereas I enjoy listening to some Beatles songs I just could never imagine worshiping them the way other people do. I've never been able to do that with anybody. Not Taylor. Not the Beatles. Not anyone. People have made fun of me my entire life for this and ask me questions like:

"Aren't you impressed by anyone or anything?"

And my answer has always been:

"Hmmmmm. Well not that much."

For example:

The New York Times. Not impressed. The President of the United States. (Whoever it is.) Not impressed. The Pope. Not impressed.

It's not that I dislike anybody or disrespect anyone. I'm just not impressed.

And I know that makes me strange because everyone tells me so. Okay, okay maybe I'm impressed by a few famous neurosurgeons and scientists, but certainly not by a pop star, or a politician, or anything like that. Oh, and maybe Hilary Hahn. I'm impressed by Hilary Hahn.

And the people who invented Band-in-a-Box and created BIAB 2024. Also, impressed by them. That I will admit.

Wait! I also am impressed by ordinary human beings who make incredible sacrifices for the common good, or make incredible sacrifices just to do the right thing and help other people. I'm impressed by those people.

But that's it.

I have met and interviewed and hung out with a lot of really famous people. Some of them are pretty cool, I think. And we had nice conversations.

But did I worship them?

Not in the least.

I'm missing that chip.

So this entire conversation about whether Taylor Swift is bigger than the Beatles? Or The New York Times said this and that?

I honestly can't tell you how meaningless I find the conversation to be. Again, I am missing that chip.

And I know that makes me really weird because everybody has always told me so!

It is just absolutely impossible to make me worship anything or anyone here on Earth.

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I'm with you David. I don't worship any human. However I am impressed with many; there is a big difference between impressed and worship IMHO. I am impressed by many musicians (virtually everyone in the showcase forum), scientists, doctors, inventors, etc; note that there are very few politicians or actors/actresses that impress me. But I worship none of them.


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I know full well that I'm missing a few chips that other people have, but I just never have understood celebrity worship and my level of celebrity worship for any human being has always remained around zero.

I'm impressed with Yohan Kim, James Taylor, Sergio Mendez, Burt Bacharch, Bob James, Oscar Peterson, Jim Morrison, America and many more.

Do I worship any of them? No, definitely not. That's not what this conversation is about. It was never about 'worship'. Actually, it's never been about 'worship', so I'm not sure how that came about.

If we study the subject matter, in 60 years time we'll actually have an answer. Hang in there, and good luck. A well deserved current period of talented stardom doesn't establish history. Only time does that.


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Audio track,

It came about because someone mentioned celebrity worship in the post directly above mine and I thought I would make a humorous reply.

Have a nice Sunday.

As for your reply to mine, I am finally impressed.

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Mario,

I was trying to be funny. David Snyder humour.

But I stand by my point.

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As with so many things in life, black and white does not apply, but rather a spectrum.

Regarding Miss Smith, I'm somewhere between blue and purple.

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Originally Posted by David Snyder
As for your reply to mine, I am finally impressed.
Nice. Me too with yours wink


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