PG Music Home Forums PG Music Wishlists Band-in-a-Box Wishlist Help! How Does a Soloist RealTrack Work?

If there is a Chord Chart populated with chords, BIAB does not "generate a randomized result each time." The BIAB algorithm reads ahead the user information input onto the Chord Chart and searches and selects specific audio snippets from the appropriate RealTrack folder and file.

Demos may have programming elements input to the algorithm that produce more complexity and consistency than what's produced by only entering a chord progression.

I did select and preview the RT#3198, both band and solo. I also analyzed the chord progression, key signature and created a tempo map of the Band wma file. The solo seems be a part of the original recording that is isolated from the original band recording. The demo was likely recorded using a multi track device or DAW.

I don't think the RealTrack demo to be a complete performance recording but is in reality, a BIAB generation. There are several reasons why I think this.

a) It's illogical for this 16 bar recording to be a performace for a RealTrack because PG Music would likely include that information. All PG Music marketing and every demo, lessons and songs, or tutorials either clearly state a track as a Performance or otherwise state the demo/song/lesson/tutorial is a BIAB generation.

b) A 16 bar song could be made with two 8 bar phrases with a single splice.

c) BIAB's algorithim accesses many tools and features that activates various actions to make track generations more complex, seamless and consistent than simply entering chords and hitting play.

d) Some of these tools and features are MultiStyles, RT#1152-Silence, The RealTrack Medley Maker, Using multiple RT's by a single artist playing the same instrument with the same settings.

e)By reading ahead, the algorithm can select specific phrases recorded and saved in the wma files in the RealTracks folders for intros, outros, and also know to create fade-in, fade-out, and crossfade as pre-generation actions rather than post generation selections manually set by users using Bar Settings. The difference between the audio material selections insure smooth transitions. Reading ahead, the same logic applies with MutliStyles and the Chord Chart for changes to styles, instruments, key signatures, tempo.

There is no indication RT#3198 solo and band demos are performance files rather than a normal demo file created the same as every other demo.

Note the screen shot from a YouTube BiAB RealTracks Demo that all the demo songs are generated RealTracks, not Performances.

Note the Soloist Lesson by Brent Mason indicates his Solo Track is an Artist Performance Track.

"It is an insult to Brent Mason's reputation, when BiaB splices his top notch recordings into random pieces, and then re-join the pieces into a mediocre solo track."
If you have "Avoid Transpositions" options could you also have "Use Original Played Riffs" rather than splicing and joining ? but same as avoid transpose you won't get as much unique material.

So if you had the SGU for the original recording you will be able to create the solos you want over a chord progression ?
wouldn't you have to splice it up same as Biab is doing ?

I'm not a musician, I'm a technician so I can only do so much. That's why I use RapidComposer, I can get the notation from the RealChart and see what chord, scale or passing notes it fits too.

The XT2 ST2s probably have it all mapped out what sections/riffs can be played over what.

If you look through the Artist Performance Tracks you should have Brent or other soloist playing over the original chord progression.

With Reaper you have scripting that can do all this how you want, if you ask there you might find a script writer with musical knowledge:
ReaScript, JSFX, REAPER Plug-in Extensions, Developer Forum
Expanding REAPER via ReaScripts (EEL2/Lua/Python scripts), JSFX (REAPER's built-in audio processors), and native C/C++ extensions. Also other aspects development-related.

They seem to be long riffs played over a progression and not that spliced up, if you go into it a bit deeper with pics of what you want to do, that I have to do I might get some more ideas:

There are plenty in here:
bb\Songs and Lessons\Artist Performance Sets\Artist Performance Set 4 - Brent Mason Country Master

I suppose this is not what you want either, green = chord notes, blue = scale notes, red = passing or out:

Charlie Fogle, you are wrong about this.

I can confirm, all soloist RealTrack demos, are indeed, performance recording tracks. None of them are BiaB generation tracks.

Why? Because PG Music wants to give users the best demo experience, so the users can be convinced. After the demo, when it comes to track generation, you are on your own.


Let me prove this to you.

First, listen to the RealTrack demo #1167: "Guitar, Electric, Soloist RockBalladBrent Ev 065".

Second, go to your #1167's RealTrack folder.

C:\bb\RealTracks\Guitar, Electric, Soloist RockBalladBrent Ev 065

Third, listen to the audio file, eg4800.wma.

You will realize, the demo and the recording track, are exactly the same.

In other words, the reason demo audio sounds so good and consistent, is because, there was absolutely no splicing and gluing happened, it is a performance track straight out of the box.

The original eg4800 was recorded in a total 80 bars, 32+32+16+ending, based on a 32 bars chord sheet repeated 2.5 times.

The demo song of #1167, was just the first 16 bars of eg4800, plus the ending.

Hope you understand what I am talking about here.

Trust me, I have already explored the folders of "Artist Performance Sets", as well as the folders of "Instrumental Studies", a long time ago.

Yes, there are some guitar solos with chord sheets in these folders. However, comparing to the amount of Soloist tracks in the RealTrack folder, it is like comparing a swimming pool to an ocean.

Musocity,

I don't think you understand how Band-in-a-Box works.

Let me explain to you, why Soloist generation sucks.

For the sake of argument, let's say, Brend Mason was given a simple chord sheet of "C - Am - F - G", and he played his guitar over this chord progression, repeated many times, and finally the recording became a RealTrack.

So, internally, BiaB maps this RealTrack like this:

Bar 1 = C
Bar 2 = Am
Bar 3 = F
Bar 4 = G

Bar 5 = C
Bar 6 = Am
Bar 7 = F
Bar 8 = G

Bar 9 = C
Bar 10 = Am
Bar 11 = F
Bar 12 = G

Bar 13 = C
Bar 14 = Am
Bar 15 = F
Bar 16 = G

So on and so forth.

Now, when a user wants to generate a Soloist track. Let's say, the user wants a track of a simple chord progression "C - F - G - C".

Here comes the problem: BiaB will splice the original recording into pieces, and then randomly glue the pieces together, to make a track.

For example, the first bar of BiaB generation, it is a C chord, and the generated audio could come from bar 1, or bar 5, or bar 9, or bar 13, of the original recording.

Similarly, the second bar is an F chord, and the generated audio could come from bar 3, or bar 7, or bar 11, or bar 15, of the original recording.

That's why the randomly glued track will lose the logic of musicality, and sounds very bad.

How does "Avoid Transposition" option work?

The third bar of user desired track, is a G chord. If "Avoid Transposition" is turned on, BiaB will randomly pick an audio from either bar 4, or bar 8, or bar 12, or bar 16, of the original recording.

However, if "Avoid Transposition" is not turned on, things will get messier. In addition to bar 4, 8, 12, 16, BiaB will also randomly pick from bar 3, 7, 11, 15, and since these bars were not recorded in G, but in F, BiaB will then apply the pitch changing to the recording of that particular bar, transpose the audio 2 semitones up, from F to G, to fit the G chord.

Doesn't matter what you do, you will always end up getting a bar randomly picked by BiaB.

It's obvious it's doing all that, Brent is not inside the application. I did it the same way with Reaper scripts in ReaTrak.
So what is the solution to get better solos ? do we need to hire Brent for our tracks ? can we map them out and choose manually what riff we want where ?
If it's not working then a better way has to be put forward.
You can create up a UserTrack from them and set it to play the whole selected riff over your chords but you will get the same thing a lot of times that won't be unique for everyone.
I just think RapidComposer is more flexible as it will fit anything over the current chord/scale, unless Biab has ARA and Melodyne what can you do ?
"and professional guitarist."
At the moment it seems like the only way is to play it yourself or hire someone.

<< Here comes the problem: BiaB will splice the original recording into pieces, and then randomly glue the pieces together, to make a track. >>

This is incorrect, as is your demonstration how BIAB internally maps a RealTrack. Secondly, PG Music stated years ago in response to issues posted in the Forum, the algorithm 'reads ahead' and selects forthcoming audio based on many factors such as endings, intros, instrument changes, key changes, tempo changes, fade in's, fade out's, crossfades, style changes and more. The algorithm does not randomly select and glue pieces. More likely, the user is failing to access and utilize many of the advanced features, tools, and processes used to properly prompt the algorithm to provide the best and desired results. Most of these are unique to the Flagship BIAB program.

Your simple demonstration shows recordings of single bar lengths. This is not the case and as a demonstration, it's misleading. Regardless if the audio is chords, chord progressions, riffs or soloist - Recordings phrases of varying lengths are carefully designed by PG Music to be played in their proprietary algorithm in BIAB flagship program. The BIAB algorithm is far more advanced, complex with more functions than what's featured in the lite versions offered in RealBand or the Plug-ins.

You are correct that the demo is playing a single solo performance. It's not an Artist Performance File but rather a phrase that the BIAB has directed to be played over an SGU Chord Sheet as at least two selections - not single bar recordings. The demo plays about 1:13 minutes and like you say, is taken from the RT1167 folder of recordings. I agree with you that Brent Mason is likely playing to a Chord template prepared by PG Music for that particular solo. However, it's only a portion of the eg4800 RealTrack that plays for more than five minutes. That's why it isn't an Artist Performance File.

Demos are not advertised or marketed as Artist Performance Files which are separately marketed to be performance files. With this solo being extracted from a RT Folder and used in an SGU file the same as all other RealTracks are used, the solo is correctly marketed as can be seen where they are described in demo videos as entering chords, picking a style and hitting play. In this case, the algorithm was directed to select this specific range of audio recording from the RT1167 Folder in its full length 1:13 minutes.

Another point of interest is that despite your impression this was a single performance, there was splicing and gluing happening, it is not by definition, a performance track straight out of the box. It is a phrase from a RealTrack folder. Notice in the Screenshot I attached, the end of the demo solo is located several minutes of recording down the audio file.

None of the six demo songs and SGU files of RT1167 replicate this exact phrasing of the instrument demo which is further evidence this isn't an Artist Performance File. It is important to note in order to correctly understand the PG Music RealTrack demos indicate that what the listener is hearing was generated by inputting chords, tempo key, style and sometimes advance tools, or processes to prompt the algorithm to create more complex arrangements or solos. It's clear the performances in all demos are specially programmed and not Artist Performance Files.

Charlie, you are best to generate up some Brent soloist examples using Biab's unique Al Gore Rhythms as MV is looking for good professional solos.

"The BIAB algorithm is far more advanced, complex with more functions than what's featured in the lite versions offered in RealBand or the Plug-ins."
So bbw is different to bbw4 bbw2 ? they are all 74meg

<< So bbw is different to bbw4 bbw2 ? >>

Even though they are all 74 megs, it seems they are different.

Open this MultiStyle in BIAB and as shown in the screenshot below, it opens with 16 sub-styles.
Open that same SGU file in RealBand and in the screenshot below, it opens with only two Sub-styles.
EDIT: Open that same SGU file in Standalone Plug-in and it opens with only two Sub-styles. (I just tried it and that's the result I got)

I don't know if the bbwxxx files are the algorithm or not, you seem to think they are and that's fine, but as I stated and demonstrate below in the screenshots, the various programs don't share the same algorithm. BIAB algorithm is far more advanced, complex with more functions than what's featured in the lite versions offered in RealBand or the Plug-ins.

They are actually all slightly different sizes:

-rwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators None 45614240 Oct 5 2020 bbw2_32.exe
-rwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators None 76498392 Dec 2 15:10 bbw2_64.exe
-rwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators None 15879712 Nov 29 2019 bbw3.exe
-rwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators None 51861960 Aug 30 15:22 bbw4_32.exe
-rwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators None 76496712 Dec 2 15:10 bbw4_64.exe
-rwxrwx---+ 1 Administrators None 76584408 Dec 12 17:27 bbw64.exe

All the bbw's are the same and have same Al Gore functions Plugin and RealBand can call on all of these if made to do so.
It doesn't generate up tracks using a different Al Gore Rhythm it's the same function that's called on.
That's why the bbw4 version is now 1124 as it used the flac and was just changed for that fix of not using flac.
They can be made to cal on every Biab function but we certainly don't want that, it's just the basic generate Al Gore Rhythm code that needs to be moved over to the C++ JUCE Plugin, they had to do this with Mac in the first place also to get the Mac version but spending 6 months to move the new version features/functions code over to Mac each year is crazy. The Mac version of the Plugin is ready now because of the crossplatform JUCE code used but it has to wait 6 months for the backend bbw4.app to get the new code added. Isn't that a good reason to move the generate code to JUCE ?
Once it has the code in the Plugin and a Track Edit you will have instant generate in any DAW with non destructive editing, you won't have to wait for wav files to be rendered to drop in. The current 2024 bbw4.app would probably work with the new 2025 Mac JUCE Plugin except for the flac on Mac right now but Mac users will still need to wait for 6 months.

That's why I asked, generate up and upload some sample Brent solos for MV either mp3 or frozen SGU so he will see what you say the flagship Al Gore can do.

<< It doesn't generate up tracks using a different Al Gore Rhythm it's the same function that's called on. >>

That's incorrect. Open RealBand and generate a track. Highlight a section of track and attempt to replace that section with RT-1152 and see if the section is replaced with silence. It isn't replaced when I attempt it here. RB and the Plug-in don't recognized MultiStyles, RT-silence and many other features and tools of the main program. I'm sure that's intentional when you think about it. It's giving users raw track audio data they can manipulate themselves in a DAW. Remember, DAWs are post audio generation editors. BIAB generates audio.

BBWs may all be the same but the bottom line is you, MusicVillian nor anyone else can produce the same complexity arrangements reading RealTrack folder wma files or reading them direct into Reaper with scripts Reading a wma file direct bypasses 100% of BIAB's internal processing and manipulation of those wma files whether it's done by bbw or not. There's something in BIAB no other program has and ripping audio from the program doesn't capture it. BIAB can combine Part Markers, Bar Settings, the RealTrack Medley Maker, Song Form, and MultiStyles and activate all of them across a single measure. Those actions used together are producing audio that is literally impossible to generate in any other existing software with audio that functions exactly like a RealTrack. It can only be done manually editing and comping multiple tracks which takes far longer than hitting the play button.

What MV thinks is a performance track is no different from a audio snippet playing a G to F progression other than the length of the audio clip. Look at the pictures above. It's 1:13 minutes of audio clip from a RealTrack wma file. PG Music generated the same as they generate all demos by setting up the BIAB Chord Sheet to play a backing band along with the solo clip.

<< That's why I asked, generate up and upload some sample Brent solos for MV either mp3 or frozen SGU so he will see what you say the flagship Al Gore can do.>>
That's what demos do. Learn how to use BIAB and it's advanced tools, features, and processes and you can make tracks and songs that sound just like theirs.

"RT-1152 and see if the section is replaced with silence."
that's a good idea generate up an empty wav file to create an empty space on the DAW track ?
"BBWs may all be the same but the bottom line is you, MusicVillian nor anyone else can produce the same complexity arrangements reading RealTrack folder wma files or reading them direct into Reaper with scripts Reading a wma file direct.."
So no one else on planet earth will ever be able write an Al Gore Rhythm to put wma files musically into Reaper ? Elon can send rockets to Mars but he couldn't do it, Apple have Logic with AI instruments and they couldn't do it.
MV wanted a way to get the chords from the source files, I showed him that but he did not want to spend the time.
If I want to work something out I spend the time with it, come up with with ways to automate things, this all takes time that I have put into it over the years, that's why we have so many features in Biab and a Plugin. I do it for all programs Win & Mac, I don't do it all for "ME".

Charlie, how long have I been at if for ? why do you have so many great features and functions in Biab now ?
Why do you have a Plugin ?
Why does the Plugin now generate instantly and plays direct.
Why do you have a script that can instantly import frozen multistyle into Reaper ?
Why do you have a script for Reaper that will generate up RealDrums ?
Why have I been here for so long looking at ways to improve PG products ?
Where did I say forget about PG use Reaper ?
The whole idea of Reaper is that it integrates with Biab/Plugin, this is a good thing isn't it ? NO other DAW can do this.
Doing this I have a 1000 times more flexibility and control than you can ever have in Biab alone, again, is this a good thing ?
And you are still trying to convince me I don't need anything else but Biab ? all that I've done is not worth it and should be flushed, all the functions in Biab, the BB Plugin, Live Arranger, script integration with Reaper all down the toilet ?

Should all this be a threat to you or PG ?
Was Biab 2009 was fine in your eyes ? should I have gone protectionism to keep it in the 90's ?
Tell me why you think I'm here all this time.

<< So no one else on planet earth will ever be able write an Al Gore Rhythm to put wma files musically into Reaper ? >>

Nope. They'll have to invent their own algorithm and then win a lawsuit against PG Music.

Don't get all dusted about this. You're actually saying the point you're missing.

No DAW generates music. DAWs are post-generation. DAWs need BIAB more than BIAB needs DAWs. DAWs begin with music input into them whether midi or audio. BIAB generates music.

<< "RT-1152 and see if the section is replaced with silence."
that's a good idea generate up an empty wav file to create an empty space on the DAW track ? >>

Exactly. DAWs don't need RT1152 Silence so that RT is ignored in RB and the Plug-in. The audio in the RT folders are at the most basic level of audio production residing in BIAB.

The point being, BIAB has many tools, features and processes like RT1152 to create more complex and sophisticated musical arrangements than people who don't use those tools, features and processes generate when they don't use them. BIAB uses unique tools to generate many things that users choose to export raw or simple arrangements in order to manually construct their music rather than have BIAB automatically generate a sophisticated, complex arrangement.

You choose to develop scripts and programs to assist people integrate BIAB tracks into their DAWs. You help a lot of people that use DAWs.

I'm very familiar with DAWs and have multiple DAWs as well as hardware digital multi track recorders. I choose to work completely in BIAB for nearly every project. I don't encourage anyone to adopt this workflow or discourage anyone from using their preferred way of using BIAB.

<< Was Biab 2009 was fine in your eyes ? >>

I first purchased BIAB in 2013 and yes, it was fine. However, by 2015, I had dropped exporting tracks to RealBand and then Studio One and was doing complete projects in BIAB. If I needed tracks that required DAW processing, I did in that in the DAW and imported those into BIAB. Did you know that 100% of the demos and demos with vocals are finished in BIAB SGU files and not Reaper, Cakewalk, Logic, RealBand, Studio One or ProTools?

BIAB is a very robust and powerful digital Multi Track Recorder. More powerful than my hardware Tascam Model 24 digital Recorder/mixer because of BIAB's integration with my PC.

I know the principles of multi track recording very good and they can be applied to the BIAB Mixer and produce as many tracks as I want. I think it was in 2014 that BIAB got the recording audio feature and Artist Performance File and BIAB was no longer restricted to 8 tracks. Projects could be constructed with 15-18 tracks or more without any degradation of the audio from bouncing. The RT Medley Maker can be used for 'automatic punch-in' and with the addition of Utility Tracks, and using the 10 channel sub-mixer slots for punch-in's , there's 264 available slots for automatic overdubs and punch-ins. There were 70 before Utility Tracks were introduced. You ever use those?

Part Markers are an astounding arrangement programming feature. Combined with MultiStyles the arrangement configurations are astronomical. A MultiStyle can be made on a per project basis or constructed to be universal and placed in the StylePicker to use on any song. MultiStyles can be made on the fly from the Bar Settings Window. A MultiStyle can have as many as 24 sub-styles and they can be used over and over in any configuration.

MultiStyles can be used in conjunction with the RT Medley Maker.

The Artist Performance File feature is a very powerful tool that can integrate every media type of sound BIAB recognizes. So, midi, SuperMidi, Loops, RealTracks and live or recorded audio can be merged together. It's Artist Performance Files that provided the opportunity starting in 2014 for audio to reside on any other track in the Legacy Mixer which prior to then, it wasn't possible.

There's no war between DAWs and BIAB. They each have their place and as you've shown, they can work extremely well together. Keep doing what you're doing. I don't think the people that use BIAB and a DAW are going anywhere. You will be able to help people for a long time to come.

At the same time, I will be making tracks and songs as complex and sophisticated as they can make in a DAW but doing in minutes what takes them hours while producing indistinguishable results between the two.

"Don't get all dusted about this. You're actually saying the point you're missing. "
"I first purchased BIAB in 2013 and yes, it was fine."
So you are telling me that I should of been happy with BB 2009, not complain, not suggest anything unless first consulting you and you would of saved me and set me straight.

If it's ok what I'm doing don't give me a hard time when I post ideas and improvements.
Look at all the crap I went through with you about non destructive editing and direct play, it's in Biab now, it's in the Plugin now.
All the info I posted with Reaper for the Plugin, ZERO interest, ZERO understanding, was like being on another planet.
How many wanted to help and try this out themselves, instead of being scared stiff of the UNKNOWN ?
Don't condemn things that you can't understand and don't even try out.
I post a lot about Reaper because it's unique how it can work with Biab/Plugin and even Rewire it, I cop so much crap all the time, as I said it's a reaper derangement syndrome, I have never seen anything like it. How much is Reaper, what copy protection does it have ? none, you can keep trying it after the 60 days and it will work just the same.
The ones that complain come up with absolutely nothing. I asked you to generate Brent demos. How many UserTracks have you uploaded ? "by their fruits you will know them".
Sure if I was stuck out in the desert with just Biab i would be able to do the same, but I'm not, I'm living in a modern era and I don't want the old restrictive interface with all it's limitation.
There is no way in a professional studio they could use Biab, but to have a professional VST that can give studio session players in their DAW is another story.
No wonder it's been stuck in the past for so fricken long ! its in a time warp because of the old guard.
I remember users in the beta forum blocking users with new ideas from coming in that I suggested. That says it all.
Just give me a break ! how many times have I been through all of this ? No more Charlie.

It's all getting too hard I think I'll give up and go home.
EDIT: "Nope. They'll have to invent their own algorithm and then win a lawsuit against PG Music. "
Crap so many other software do the same thing.

Charlie Fogle, you are incorrect. Please see attached pictures.

1. Demo song "Guitar, Electric, Soloist RockBalladBrent Ev 065 #1167 solo.wma" was not generated by BiaB, but was manually chopped and put together by PG Music staff member.

2. Performance track "eg4800.wma" was first chop off with the first 16 bars (excluding the 2 bars lead-in), and then combined with the last 4 bars ending, to make a demo song.

3. Don't use Audacity. Use a DAW. Set to bpm 65. Chop it yourself. Listen to both tracks together, and you will see.

4. Open the demo sgu "_BALBMS2 demo (ALL REALTRACKS-Ballads,BrentElGuitSol,ElBass,ElGuits,B3Organ)", and this is the chord sheet for the demo audio. I can confirm this, as I already verified the chords with a chord detection software on the demo audio.

5. You can open the demo sgu, sit there for an hour, try to generate the same solo, and you won't get it. Even though you have the chord sheet exactly the same as the demo audio, you can't recreate the demo audio. The algorithm is not invented yet.

6. Demo songs were not generated by BiaB. BiaB doesn't have an algorithm to keep 16 bars of original recording track unchanged. The only way to extract 16 bars of audio from the performance track unchanged, is to manually cut it out, aka "straight out of the box".

<< 1. Demo song "Guitar, Electric, Soloist RockBalladBrent Ev 065 #1167 solo.wma" was not generated by BiaB, but was manually chopped and put together by PG Music staff member. >>

That may or may not be the case. The screenshot doesn't show evidence to how the demo was generated, only that the audio clips exist in that RT data file.

This issue was resolved years before 2023 and I'm unaware if you visited the forum regularly before 2023.

There were far less RealTracks and RT data years ago and there was a common issue with tracks generating abrupt and cut off intro's and endings.

This was due to how users edited tracks. Bar Settings (F5) was the overwhelming choice to mute and change instruments, particularly when a song used two or more soloists. In other words, manually chopped and put together by users rather than generated by BIAB.

I had discovered RT#1152-Silence RealTrack and found that it eliminated these abrupt intros and endings. I shared this information in a forum post and a PG Music staffer later posted in that thread that using RT#1152 was the preferred and a better method for changing soloists because that RT was designed for the BIAB algorithm to 'read ahead' and 'see' the forthcoming change and 'seeing' this would prompt the algorithm to select different ending and intro material.

So, to recap, this method prompts BIAB algorithm to create a 'Smooth Transition'. Evidently, the algorithm does exist.

The reason this is better is because it prompts the algorithm to select different audio than may normally be selected if the algorithm is unaware of a forthcoming change in a soloist. The algorithm interprets RT#1152 as a different and unique RealTrack to be the same as every other RealTrack.

Whereas using Bar Settings, the user is working with generated music that didn't account for the soloist change. Doing post generation editing like a DAW operates.

<< 2. Performance track "eg4800.wma" was first chop off with the first 16 bars (excluding the 2 bars lead-in), and then combined with the last 4 bars ending, to make a demo song. >>

Correct. But there's no evidence whether the editing was done by a staffer manually or generated by BIAB. Two takeaways.

a) eg4800.wma is not a Performance Track. It is a RealTrack data file for RT#1167. The two are not the same.

b) I agree that the 1:15 clip used for RT#1167 is also the demo for that track and it may also appear in an actual performance by Brent Mason in an actual Artist Performance Set but in either case, the clip was included in the RT data file and all indications are it was recorded at the same time as the remainder of that RT data file not a clip extracted from an Artist Performance Set.


<< 3. Don't use Audacity. Use a DAW. Set to bpm 65. Chop it yourself. Listen to both tracks together, and you will see. >>

I didn't analyze anything in Audacity. That screenshot is for display only.

I analyzed and generated tracks in BIAB. I analyzed the audio using the Audio Chord Wizard for the Chords, key signature, and tempo which automatically populated the Chord Chart. I converted the solo recording into an Artist Performance File and generated and played the solo over several different styles, keys, and tempos. And having the solo's notation and tabs available for study or to learn how to play that solo just like Brent.

Here's what PG Music states about the Brent Mason Artist Performance Set 4:
"Each of these electric guitar solos has notation which shows exactly what is being played by Brent Mason. This means you can use the amazing audio stretching features in Band-in-a-Box to slow down the audio with out changing the pitch and learn to play along with Brent Masons solos. Each song in Artist Performance set 4 has a solo that was specifically recorded for that song. "

Those specific solos are in the Artist Performance Track media. Just like midi, SuperMidi, Loops, or RealTracks, an Artist Performance Track is designed to work within the BIAB Mixer, Notation, Chord Chart, Piano Roll and all the other feature tools BIAB offers.

This also means you can take any Brent Mason solo from any SGU chart when Brent's RealTrack included notation. Saving that track as an Artist Performance Track also saves the integrated midi from that track's performance. This works with any artist, any style, any tempo, any key and any instrument that includes midi data for notation. You ever use this feature?

This is getting long. I'll post replies to the remaining points in another post.