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Yes, I use your work (very) often, and I take this opportunity to thank you, but this is a way of bypassing the plugin, even though we paid for it with everything else.
I don't think I have such a special configuration that the plugin only bugs with me. When fast generation arrived on the Reaper plugin, I only used that. Now Biab 25 is also almost as fast as the V6 plugin, so the plugin will probably be dropped.
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The plugin in Reaper has this exceptional feature that it does not take time to generate wavs, this is for me the main advantage. Saves space and saves time. But when it does not want to, it does not want to. I'm surprised it was released in this non-functional state, but I feel like I'm the only one having this problem, so I'll do without it until a fix is available.
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... but I feel like I'm the only one having this problem, so I'll do without it until a fix is available. Trust me, you are not alone! Don't ask me how I know. 
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. . . so I'll do without it until a fix is available. So does anyone have a Plan B workaround for MoultiPass and Ray? If I did I would share.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2026 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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I don't know why they don't have just the Plugin Installer for download rather than the massive 500 MB package. Because the updated plugin always requires the updated version of BIAB, and because it would otherwise be a waste of server storage for the 0.2% of users who want an incomplete installer. . It's amusing how we're sweating over saving 100MB on the servers when we're pushing nearly 1TB of FLAC downloads this year. Talk about a factor of 10,000! 
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For me the absolute best feature I used of version 7 of the plugin (and in general BiaB 2025) is THIS
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We're getting off topic. If you want to discuss whether v6 or v7 is better or how much you love JUCE or anything else, start a new thread. This one is specific to the crashes that RayC is having. Indeed for me V7 (04 or 10) does not work correctly in generating instructions in Reaper. It takes a huge amount of time compared to versions 6.XX and above all the tracks are offset, they start too early (often on the and of the 3), and I can't correct it at all. This should also be a separate thread, but I'll address it anyway. In the "Send to Reaper" panel, is Use REAPER Instructions" checked? If this is unchecked, then the Generate Type settings under the Generate button will be used. Then in Studio One, the generation does not work either and the simplest is the generation of wav, so we lose all the interest of the Plugin instructions. Can you try the plugin standalone version? If that can't generate anything either, then you have an install issue or your folder locations are incorrect.
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I received an email that Moultipass replied, but that reply seems to have been deleted. It seems like his problem has been solved and was an installation issue. As for RayC he hasn't responded in nearly 2 weeks, but I'll leave this thread open in case he comes back.
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Yes, absolutely Simon, you put me on the right track with this story of bad installation, whereas my Biab has been in concrete for several years. After a clean and quick reinstallation, the plugin runs like a rocket. No more worries. You were right, hence a big thank you.
Actually, I removed Biab from my C: drive, so everything runs from my new Biab SSD. As a result, everything is grouped for the directories and it works perfectly, I'm not touching anything anymore
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After a clean and quick reinstallation, the plugin runs like a rocket. Good to hear! Actually, I removed Biab from my C: drive, so everything runs from my new Biab SSD. Honestly I always suggest running BB and the RealTracks/Drums from the same drive - it's simpler, and avoids future problems (Windows likes to change drive letters at times, for example).
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Actually, I removed Biab from my C: drive, so everything runs from my new Biab SSD. Honestly I always suggest running BB and the RealTracks/Drums from the same drive - it's simpler, and avoids future problems (Windows likes to change drive letters at times, for example). So, in your expert opinion, is installing the content libraries (RealTracks, RealDrums) in a separate drive a nice feature or an user error? As a feature, it worked in previous versions.
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Regarding Biab, I never had any problems with RTs and RDs on a separate drive.
In my case, the issue was with the Plugin, which seemed to be lost (it couldn't generate anything, in both Reaper and Studio One). I admit that I was also using 4 Symlinks for the main folders (Demos, Soloists, Songs and Lessons, and Styles), as I thought it would save time by launching everything from my C: drive.
Since I deleted everything and did a simple installation only on the 2025 SSD, the plugin is working fine. Is it related? Probably.
For everyone whose separate drive is working, don't change anything.
Simon rightly pointed out that working on external drives without explicitly assigning fixed letters could also cause a loss of bearings in Biab, particularly with Symlinks, but I had specifically assigned fixed letters to my drives.
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So, in your expert opinion, is installing the content libraries (RealTracks, RealDrums) in a separate drive a nice feature or an user error?
As a feature, it worked in previous versions. It is a nice feature, and it works as intended - however, as Moultipass found out it does not like working with symlinks, and like I mentioned Windows likes to change drive letter when it feels like it. I typically suggest running everything from one location for that reason, since something simple like plugging in two hard drives in a different order can be enough to change drive letters.
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Special Extended Until September 15, 2026! Save over 40 Styles PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows!
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XPro Styles PAKs 1-11 for Mac or for Windows are on special for only $29 each (reg. $49 ea), or get all 11 PAKs for only $149 (reg. $299)!
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with ANY version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-11 includes 1,100 styles!
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Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-22 includes 3,900 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!
Note: XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs include additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® that work seamlessly with your project. Xtra Styles PAKs and XPro Styles PAKs are NOT included in any Band-in-a-Box® package!
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Guess who’s back again? That’s right! It’s our XPro Styles PAK’s triumphant return with the 11th edition in this series! 100 new styles are coming your way spread across the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres. And this edition's wildcard genre explores the immense and far-reaching catalogue of electronic music! The included 31 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
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In this PAK you can find: dulcet folk ballads, funky gospel country, Brazilian jazz fusion, upbeat 1980s pop, classic Americana, a plethora of breezy bossa novas, indie singer-songwriter, scintillating synthwave, exuberant electronica, and many, many more!
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1-22 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 22 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 22.
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 22 requires the 2026 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 11 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2026 and Higher!
XPro Styles PAK 11 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 (and higher) is here with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 31 RealTracks/RealDrums!
Guess who’s back again? That’s right! It’s our XPro Styles PAK’s triumphant return with the 11th edition in this series! 100 new styles are coming your way spread across the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres. And this edition's wildcard genre explores the immense and far-reaching catalogue of electronic music! The included 31 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1-11 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 11 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2026 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 22 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2026 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 22 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2026 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
It’s time to celebrate! Xtra Styles PAK 22 for Band-in-a-Box® is here, and we've got 200 brand-new styles coming your way!
No Xtra Styles PAK is complete without the classic rock & pop, jazz, and country volumes you know and love, and we’ve got plenty to share, with 150 styles spread across too many genres to list! Of course, it also wouldn’t be complete with our special wildcard volume to add a little spice and pizzazz to the mix. This year, because we loved it so much the first time, we’ve decided to make the second iteration of our SynthMaster volume, full of new sounds, interesting genres, and 50 engaging styles, all making use of the diverse SynthMaster plugin! Here you can find genres such as airy yacht rock, sultry electrotango, and even some synth soca funk. Don’t wait, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 22 today!
In this PAK you can find: dulcet folk ballads, funky gospel country, Brazilian jazz fusion, upbeat 1980s pop, classic Americana, a plethora of breezy bossa novas, indie singer-songwriter, scintillating synthwave, exuberant electronica, and many, many more!
Special offers available until August 31st, 2026!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1-22 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 22 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 22.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 22 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 22 requires the 2026 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Peter Gannon Talks Band-in-a-Box with zplane
zplane recently interviewed Peter Gannon, the founder and creator of Band-in-a-Box, about the software's early days, what sets it apart from AI, how zplane's audio algorithms are used in Band-in-a-Box, and more!
Special thanks to the team at zplane for their continued support.
Check out the full interview here: https://products.zplane.de/blog/peter-gannon-interview-pg-music
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