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the app is for playing live or practicing for playing live, or heck just playing for fun. It is an app that scrolls PDFs sheets, or you can also scroll google sheets if you want (that takes a step or two) and links them to an MP3 file of backing tracks. I know there are several out there but i have found most to be either way to complicated or way to simple. The test subject is the "Lite" it does what i is described in above. the app is not an app store ready app it is a simple https file that should work on any browser and should open a browser even offline with no internet. Keeping it lite on resources. it has a built-in import export so you can create a desktop folder to store your song list and them import it there, or export new songs that you create to play. If you are interested, please send your email address in a private message here on pgm, and i will send the link fresh, and a PDF users guide. Side note this was developed with Band in a Box created files in mind. I have currently about 20 or more i have created using BiaB to make my MP3 files. and matching PDFs .

The idea is to test specifically:

Add 5-10 real songs they actually play
Attach a PDF chart and use it in performance mode
Try the auto-scroll with an MP3 backing track
Build a setlist and run through it start to finish
On iPhone — install it to the home screen and use it from there


What to report:

Anything that doesn't work on their specific device
Anything confusing or hard to find
Features they wish it had
Whether the scroll speed feels right with real music

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Interesting. I don't play live anymore, or if I do it is a very rare occasion. I can help you with the testing part. It's easy enough to set up and test it according to your requirements. You can email me if you'd like me to help and participate in the shakedown cruise/ beta testing of the app.


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Thanks Herb, i appreciate it. i just sent it.


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I would take your unobscured email off the page as it'll get harvested for scamming.
Personal messages are safer, but of course you have to handle them.

I may be able to test if you need more people. I'm usually thorough about identifying and reporting stuff, but have largely stopped doing that with BiaB as it became a rod for my own back.

I do have an interest in the functionality you describe.


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Hi Rob
I’m no techie, but as it’s https, I am assuming it would come up full screen (landscape or portrait) on an iPad through Safari? I jam with mates and use an iPad because of eyesight issues.
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yes it has that capability. Once i know the free lite version is working i will need to test the Pro version that has some cool features. Like A BiaB type chord sheet that allows the user to copy paste in text lyrics, type in chords or to copy paste in Ultimate guitar sheets as well.

feel free to shoot me a private message and i will link the html file.


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update file to try. https://chordbooklite.surge.sh opens in any browser.


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Note to everyone else.... If Rob's link doesn't show up as expected.....check your spam folder. I found it on page 3 of my spam folder....


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https://chordbooklite.surge.sh/

I’ll make it easier for folks


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I'd like to get in on this but just took on a bunch of work that will likely delay my resuming live gigs till nearly Christmas.

Dang, this looks like fun.


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Jump in Mike when you are ready the link is above that is all you need to open it. The help file gives instruction on how to install on a desktop or laptop. Then all you need is a few PDF chord sheets and matching MP3 files to sync up. I see you use finale, if you export PDFs out of finale, you can export as continuous format. If you already have PDF songs sheet, you can use PDFgear a free editor to crop the PDF pages to have no gap in the middle that always messes with the scroll speed on these type apps.

My whole point here i love making my take on a song with BiaB and I want to be able to toss my old shabby notebook and clean it up. I have tried several other scrolling apps but never really liked them. Either too complicated or not enough development. i thought hhhmmm make my own.

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Rob, I would love to play with this, but I am currently on an extended camping vacation since May 1st. I should be home mid-July, so if you still need help then, I'm happy to jump in.


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John Sure the link is above just copy it into your browser.

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Rob.

i wish you every success with this.

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I just did a nice upgrade thanks to some feedback from Andrew Dee. We are slowly working the bugs out on this. Please take a look when you can.


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Just a quick note.

I normally use Linux. On that I tried Firefox, Brave and Chromium, but couldn't find a way to install on them, though I didn't look all that hard.
On Windows, also no-go on Firefox, but it installed on Edge.


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Hey Gordon thanks for the input. I appreciate your help. I have used it on Chrome, and Edge and Safari. Chrome and edge do best. The other i have barely heard of. Safari Firefox do not have the install tools that the others do. in these other browsers it is best to just run it as a browser tool. It is not the app it is the browser that lacks that kind of ability.


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Any feedback guys? Just wondering what folks think i have added a lot of content to the apps over the last few days.


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I was interested in your app, so I clicked on your link to see what it was about. In that process, I thought of a few suggestions from the perspective of a "user" who has never laid eyes on your app (or any other "app" that installs in a browser). I'm using edge on a win 11 laptop, so that's the platform of the installation.

I ran the install routine after determining that the install directions were just a little bit off. A complete computer illiterate (my spouse) would probably have given up. Here's my suggestion for a more clear install instructions (for Edge):

🪟 Windows Edge
The app is the link [ https://chordbooklite.surge.sh/ ] to be pasted into your address bar if it doesn't already appear there.
Open the app in Edge by pressing [ Enter ]
Edge: click the ⋯ "menu" (three dots in the upper right) → "More Tools" > "Apps" → "Install this site as an app"
Click Install and when finished, the app appears in your Start menu and taskbar ✅

(The "More Tools" submenu selection was missing in the instructions)

The next thing I determined is that the songs listed were apparently only text with no actual pdf's or song files for testing. That kind of put the brakes on my testing plans for the app, since I'm not able to dig around for a pdf and matching mp3 to test with. It would be helpful if there were a link on your website for a few files to download for testing just to see and get a feel of how the program runs.

One thing I did notice is that the error screen for a missing pdf file had dark red text on dark grey. That was almost impossible to read on my laptop.

Also, there is a button in the upper left that says EXIT. I was seeking a way to return to the main screen and I debated if EXIT meant "close the program" or "return to previous", or whatever. After pressing EXIT I found that it was to return to previous. Perhaps BACK might be an alternative (thinking for my spouse)

Finally, a YT video showing installation, using the app and the features would be extra slick. Kinda gives a jump-start on how to and what to do.

Not criticizing at all, it sounds like a neat program. Your request was for input, so I hope this helps.

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Yes it does help. The three songs are placeholders and do nothing I will delete them in the next build. Yes the help menu needs updating. I had to take a break for a couple weeks hope to hit it again this next week. I will create a folder of test songs.


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